covid real numbers

Posted by $ kddr22 4 years, 12 months ago to Science
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  • Posted by lrshultis 4 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Here is another case of tragic deaths which is not even reported. There was a school shooting(?) killing about 20 seven year old and under children which resulted in demanding that the Constitution be changed to end the right to bare arms. But on average 20 children in that age group are killed weekly by automobile related causes. There is no outcry to remove automobiles or lock up the children to keep them safe.
    Such deaths are acceptable as part of life even though there might be ways to remove some of the danger. Many lives could be save by all countries driving on the left side of roads. There are on the order of 22 deaths per so many miles from right side driving but only about 16 deaths per so many miles from left side driving.
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  • Posted by term2 4 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Look at his version of directive 10-289!! It’s ok to b play pickeball (whatevev that is...) and golf while we watch the economy crash. This idiot is a very typical power hungry liberal. I call him the pickle ball governor
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  • Posted by Flootus5 4 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    And Governor Sissylick is insisting Nevada is still in Phase 0 of reopening. We may not reopen until the end of June by his edicts. Bring it on, numbnuts.
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  • Posted by term2 4 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I refuse to wear the mask that the government orders. First of all, its not going to protect ME, and secondly I am NOT infected, so it wont help anyone else if I wear it.

    I really disllike government orders that infringe on my freedom
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  • Posted by freedomforall 4 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    We are free to decide for ourselves (in GA) what risks are worth taking. Shopping for food, yes. Haircut, no, not yet. (About 30 assumed or proven COVID cases in our county. Sunny, high 85F.)
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  • Posted by mccannon01 4 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    OMG! I actually risked life and limb by DRIVING A CAR to the grocery store this morning!!! Can you imagine the chance I was taking!!??? However, I did obey the current Cuomo edict and wore a mask. [Side note: I was grocery shopping in a town that has ZERO cases of C-19! - NYC is about 400 miles away]
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  • Posted by term2 4 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Life has risks. You might be run over by a bus but we still walk around the city streets.
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  • Posted by term2 4 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Unfortunately this is correct. Hiding under the bed is not the way to deal with an rpudemic unless you are seriously weak with impaired immunity
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  • Posted by $ blarman 4 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There are between 40K and 90K deaths every year where flu is a contributing factor. This despite "vaccines." And yet people go about their business...
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  • Posted by $ 4 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    herd immunity is exactly what we do not have based on how this was handled so almost guaranteed that a large second wave will happen
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  • Posted by term2 4 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Herd immunity is what turns the corner on epidemics. They never stop the first wave with vaccines.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 4 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Every time I hear someone criticizing the governor of GA for opening things up too soon I respond with, "He just gave people back the freedom to decide for themselves. What the people do with freedom is their own responsibility."
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  • Posted by term2 4 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Precisely true. The government doesnt have to open anything up really- it just has to get out of the way and things will open up by themselves as people make their own decisions
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  • Posted by term2 4 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There is the implicit assumption today that the government has the right to force us to obey it, no matter what it says
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  • Posted by mccannon01 4 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Different incident, Term2. The one I saw was on a city street corner. Someone took a video as it happened.
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  • Posted by term2 4 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Absolutely, its our decision, not some bureaucrats. I do think that the risk of getting the virus and dying from it is less than 1%, if you consider how easy or difficult it is to get it in the first place. I am in the risk group, so I dont hang around bars, conferences, large groups, and I am not traveling around the country or internationally.

    Until the danger is over. But I am NOT going to hide under my bed for months like they are ordering me to.
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  • Posted by term2 4 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think it was in the midwest somewhere. A park ranger was being authoritarian, and one of the citizens pushed him into the lake. Unfortunately, he was found and arrested for a felony. We will have to be more clandestine about resisting authority
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  • Posted by mccannon01 4 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes! I'm in the at risk age group and am in very good health. Others in the military and other professions risk their health and very lives to preserve the greatest civilization the planet has ever seen. I'm willing to risk the same to preserve the same. The choice should be mine, not some control freak in public office.

    To be honest, I'd rather be free and risk getting C-19 now that I have a very good chance of beating it than to wait until some other health factor comes into play. That doesn't mean I'd look for getting the virus, but I don't want to be forced to live in a bunker.
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  • Posted by mccannon01 4 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Liberal elitist mantra: "Rules for thee, but not for me."

    Edit add to my post above: We are seeing first hand there are government bullies willing to knock the snot out of the citizenry over the most specious edicts of the ruling class. If this keeps up, there is likely to be a big mess coming up.
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  • Posted by $ pixelate 4 years, 11 months ago
    Based on the results that I have read, the level of impact for an individual suffering from C19 is directly related to the individual's susceptibility. This is predicated on the severity of individual ailments. Ailments include any compromises to the immune system -- such as asthma, hypertension, obesity, etc. Individuals with these ailments know it. If ... and that is a very big if .... If these individuals care about their life, then they will take cautionary steps to avoid those situations where they can contract C19 as well as be close to the resources that can treat them once they do get it. It is also likely that a great percentage of the population will eventually get C19.

    The health clubs and fitness centers should have never closed. Just post, in large font, the warnings regarding those who are susceptible. Individuals should be allowed the freedom to choose their level of risk. Schools should have stayed open. By this point (early May), we would have had vast swaths of folks who had passed through the virus and who are now immune, or the few cases requiring treatment.

    However, The State has taken the position of one size fits all... and now our king of conceit Inslee (Washington State) has ordered the lock down to go beyond May 4th and through the end of May. Residential and commercial construction must desist. But GOV construction projects are allowed to continue. Sweet unemployment checks are showered out while liquor and pot stores remain open. Interesting. There is a disincentive to return to work for the welfare check recipients.

    I see the social distancing (the arbitrary 6 feet) and the donning of masks to be a combination of behavior engineering blended with a generous bit of virtue signalling.

    One bright light -- a number of county sheriffs are not enforcing the dictates from Olympia. And there are protests taking place in sundry towns and cities.

    I recently shared with a like-minded freedom-loving, personally responsible, gun-toting friend in Wisconsin -- if the edict comes down from on high that we must wear masks while out running, cycling, etc ... I will refuse. I will sooner spend a night in jail. He insisted that it would similarly be an opportunity to discover what the food is like while being incarcerated. Resist!
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  • Posted by $ blarman 4 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Precisely. The moral question is whether or not Government has the power to tell you what risks you are allowed to take. The bad part about this is that government has been operating from the beginning on bad information...
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