covid real numbers

Posted by $ kddr22 4 years, 12 months ago to Science
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  • Posted by Ben_C 4 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Agreed - its personal responsibility vs government dependence. I prefer the former.
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  • Posted by term2 4 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The illustrious and idiotic governor of nevada has opened up golf, tennis, and of ALL things Pickleball a few days ago. While Vegas collapses, he is suggesting playing pickleball????? He is totally out of touch with reality and just is into power. Wait until the next election, thats all I have to say.
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  • Posted by term2 4 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Exactly. When we have 30,000 deaths from auto accidents, do we close the roads? When we have pedestrian deaths , do we eliminate all sidewalks? Give us information, and let each of us decide if he/she wants to take the risks of getting a virus. If a person doesnt want to take the risk, then stay home under your bed. Should be an individual decision.
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  • Posted by term2 4 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Both Cuomo brothers are power hungry idiots. I bet both of them get haircuts while we have to wait. Its obvious that the collectivists think they are the only ones who should be preferred.
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  • Posted by term2 4 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If you are weak and elderly, maybe YOU might consider staying at home until this thing blows over. Let the rest of the people go about getting exposed and developing immunity while they continue to keep the economy going.

    The government has just gotten power hungry. Keeping people off the beaches is ridiculous really. Whoever wants to congregate with other people should be allowed to, at THEIR own risk.
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  • Posted by term2 4 years, 11 months ago
    I dont believe anything governments tell us. In the case of kung flu, all they can come up with in Nevada is about 250 "deaths", probably only partially a result of catching it, but more likely due to other factors that weakened people. They could have died from any number of other factors like a common cold or flu- when added to their already serious medical issues.

    Out of 3 million people in Nevada, this is a really small number, definitely a lot LESS than the number that died on the roads due to accidents.

    But we dont shut down the roads to prevent THOSE deaths.
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  • Posted by mccannon01 4 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Saw on the news this morning a guy in Chicago being beaten by police because he wasn't practicing proper social distancing techniques. Don't know the whole story, but it looked really bad.

    Had to run an errand this morning and caught Cuomo on the radio. Gosh, he sounded like a kindergarten teacher speaking in slow low tones scolding and warning to make sure the little kiddies were wearing clean underwear. It's getting to the point I can't stand to hear his condescending voice. Yes, I turned off the radio.
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  • Posted by VicW 4 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Political T shirt are normally not my thing but I did order a "My Governor is an idiot" T with the Michigan logo.
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  • Posted by Ben_C 4 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The operative phrase is "slow the spread" NOT "stop the spread." These viruses will run its course until the herd is immune. People can hide all they want but viruses due what viruses do. Yes, it sucks if you get it an die. My questions: are we going to go through this with each flu season? And where was "the government" when sixty thousand plus people died from previous flu viruses 2018-2019?
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  • Posted by $ blarman 4 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That's one of the reasons the lockdowns need to end. Too many governors - like the one in Michigan - are acquiring a taste for tyranny...
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  • Posted by freedomforall 4 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    VERY little to worry about ... if you can ignore the increasing number of jackboots being donned against innocent people.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 4 years, 11 months ago
    Testing out of California, Chicago, and New York are all showing 20% of the population had the virus - and never knew. The other facts frequently overlooked by the press are:

    COVID-19 doesn't kill anyone by itself. Just like the flu, it is a comorbidity factor meaning that if you have some other underlying condition, this can push you over the edge. That's why people under 50 aren't dying in droves. More than 99% of the deaths are in the elderly.

    Want to protect your elderly? Get the virus and develop an immunity to it. Unless you have an underlying condition which puts you at risk (and even then new drugs are proving effective) you have very, VERY little to worry about.
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  • Posted by Lucky 4 years, 12 months ago
    The General v. the Specific.

    Shutdown and other of those extreme measures would not have been necessary if governments had done what Taiwan did - Jan2020, strict closure of the border, no incoming flights from China, no Chinese tourists or students.
    Everyone else closed borders but too late, so the bad measures spoken about were brought in.

    There is another thing that governments should have done- closed internal borders, important for nations with large areas. Australia did it with some success. (there were shut-downs as well).
    Suppose the US had isolated NY City, and a few other urban conglomerates, would that have worked? I suggest - yes. Suggested by Trump, knocked back by the usual suspects. NY City would still have needed the strict internal shutdown, and a few other places, but not the whole US.

    So, have these decisions made as locally as possible.

    Another point from the top of the article,
    that the strict measures are not justified by the severity of the pandemic, but how bad does the pandemic have to be is not stated, would that view be used regardless of severity?
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 4 years, 12 months ago
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  • Posted by $ 4 years, 12 months ago
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