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George Washington

Posted by $ kddr22 4 years, 10 months ago to Culture
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"If the laws are to be so trampled upon with impunity and a minority is to dictate to the majority , there is an end ,put at one stroke, to republican government; and nothing but anarchy and confusion is to be expected hereafter." George Washington


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  • Posted by $ 4 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    they go on sale intermittently would be around 40 . I make a wish list and wait for the sales
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  • Posted by $ 4 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Interstate commerce between states under the articles of confederation was at the whim of each state and the need for a federal system of trade was what spurred Washington to contact Madison and Hamilton to start the process and brought in others later. The great courses has a wonderful history program called The Founding Fathers.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 4 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    In what ways? They don't really cover interstate commerce in the Federalist Papers so this is a new thought to me.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 4 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    One minute after Trump's inauguration was too long for Trump in office according to the media, more than half of the executive branch, and all the Democrats and their supporters and puppeteers.
    Trump has shown a greater respect for the US Constitution than the previous 4 presidents.
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  • Posted by $ 4 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It is interesting in that one of the reasons Washington wanted to change to constitution model was for the very reason of interstate commerce.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 4 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    When one understands that there were almost no roads (ways to get one's product to market) during those periods one begins to understand why moonshine was profitable: it was a more monetarily dense product than the wheat that went into it. One of the major developments in the early days of the United States was its travel and communications infrastructure, including turnpikes and canals. Once those developed and it became more cost effective to ship farm commodities like wheat and barley, moonshine production dropped. Turns out that bread is kind of important. ;)

    A modern-day analogy is the opium trade in Afghanistan. I had a good friend who was a retired Air Force Colonel stationed in Afghanistan for some time. He gave a lecture to a large group of us - including pictures - showing that the major trade there is opium because it is lightweight and can be loaded on the backs of goats for transport/export. When all you have is knife-edged mountains everywhere and no roads - let alone vehicles - you use what you have...
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  • Posted by $ splumb 4 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Then that's two potentially disastrous situations he defused, thank goodness.
    If it sounds like I'm siding with the small whiskey makers, I am. My uncle Paul was a moonshiner, so I heard things from his point of view.
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  • Posted by Steven-Wells 4 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If someone wanted to convince an atheist like me of supernatural beings, they should point to the demigods who founded this country.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 4 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Congress clearly has the power to "lay and collect taxes" in Article I. The law wasn't unConstitutional, just poorly implemented in that it targeted specific goods and services. It was uncomfortably akin to the Stamp Tax and other of the Intolerable Acts - which is why it was received so poorly. To your point it was why many former soldiers took up arms in the Whiskey Rebellion. They thought that they had gotten rid of one tyrant just to get another. Washington was instrumental in defusing the situation, as many of those present had fought with him and still held him in the highest regard.
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  • Posted by $ splumb 4 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "....Congress decided to levy taxes on a variety of products and services provided by its citizens."
    Sounds like taxation without representation.
    Isn't that partly why we fought a revolution?
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  • Posted by $ blarman 4 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The Whiskey Rebellion was actually the result of a poorly-devised law from a Congress strapped for cash to pay for the Revolutionary War - even nearly twenty years later. With the ratification of the Constitution, the Federal Government had agreed to take on much of the States' debts - yet it had almost no way to pay those debts. Because the US had almost zero customs agents and trade was still trying to recover from the Revolution, Congress decided to levy taxes on a variety of products and services provided by its citizens. There was also a strong temperance movement (the majority of the nation was Protestant) at the time with booze being seen as a societal evil.

    Washington was simply doing his job - enforcing the law. It should be noted that while he did employ troops, HOW he employed them to quell the riots without bloodshed was admirable. Washington also arranged for pardons for many of those involved.
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  • Posted by $ splumb 4 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There's only one thing that bothers me about Washington: The whiskey rebellion. Hamilton was at the back of it, trying to destroy small, independent whiskey makers so that they'd be forced to work for the big distilleries, mostly owned by his big shot New York banking buddies.
    I don't blame those small producers for rebelling. They were fighting for their livelihoods.
    But I can't understand how, after fighting so hard for independence, Washington could have sicced the army on those people.
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  • Posted by Jkj7 4 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Totally agree. But if you listen to the pundits and congress, our current President is not going to leave...ever!
    ROFL
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  • Posted by $ blarman 4 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It's just too bad that few people - especially our elementary education - actually read the works of the Founders. For all the focus on STEM education, I like this one quote from Jurassic Park: "Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether they could, they didn't stop to think if they should." Intelligence without morality to guide it is not only wasted, but in many times destructive to self and others.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 4 years, 10 months ago
    Washington was the one President to reject political parties and called on Congress to avoid "foreign entanglements." He was also the only President to walk away from the job and go back to his simple home. He is and will always be the greatest President in my book.
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  • Posted by Jkj7 4 years, 10 months ago
    With everyone on social media finding passages and quotations from historical figures, it is amazing that our founding fathers were so wise and understood the pitfalls of repeating the past. For our founding documents to have withheld the test of time for this long is truly a tribute to the sagacity of our forefathers.
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