The Dems, as usual, are using the black race as a power grab excuse. Obama perfected it, and Alinsky was his idol. Since Obama never lived as a black, was half white, and cared nothing for either race, it was easy. Now, to use those methods to set Marxism free to reign, Black Lives Matter, ANTIFA and Sunrise something in Minneapolis, are all Soros funded. Nothing he does is good, he is always using some race or another to destroy capitalism in the US.

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It's the New Jim Crow. Same as the old Jim Crow except the faces are changed.

Aw, someone who is the epitome of perfection has demoted to 0 me by a point.
Oh, woe is me!

"Don't bother to examine a folly -- ask yourself only what it accomplishes." They don't want to defund the police. They want to destroy laws defending the rights of the individual, including property rights, and redistribute police-funding to their own political mob police enforcers.

It goes farther than that. If you are white, you are a racist. If you are white, you should not exist. Ballet dancers are called a product of white supremacy. No matter how nightmarish a demand you can invent, they are already there and pushing it further. Anything that white people have achieved will be twisted and held against them. And therefore they deserve anything done to them or taken from them.

If we are going to defund the police we may as well defund the national guard. They were called out to protect and all they did,, like the police, were to stand abound with their hands in their pockets while thugs looted and burned.

clever. Fortunately I dont have to worry about being fired, or destroyed by public opinion, so I dont need to worry about losing some argument about being a racist. I would just stick to the definition of racist, and I would win the argument every time

Because, you see, if you are a RACIST then nothing you say matters. You have to shut up.

The only defunding of police that I support is a repeal of asset forfeiture laws.

ANTIFA- where NO lives matter

Agreed.

I'd like to have some better data to support my discussion with a few open-minded liberals, but I agree. Racism is not a problem. The best thing we can do is stop talking about it. Protests just make it worse.

The left wants to call everyone else a RACIST, thats the agenda

ANTIFA- where NO lives matter

How about defunding one of more of the welfare agencies first?

It depends upon the arrested figures. The number of blacks vs whites who are arrested varies wildly by the crime, For example murder and robbery more blacks are arrested than whites. Drug abuses more than twice as many whites are arrested. In the violent crime the ratio is 1.7 so that would make whites more likely.

But these things don't always happen with violent crimes. This one was counterfeiting. So it may well be that statistically blacks are more likely to be harmed.

But it's not a massive difference. As a society the problem isn't racist cops abusing black people it's bully cops abusing the people they feel are powerless.

And there is usually some component of resistance to arrest to these -- in this case, a refusal to get into the police car. The concept of being picked on by the police may be increasing the likelihood of resistance.

Oh, I have no doubt you are right about that. Power is much more captivating than racism, particularly to those that never had it an crave it.

I know, but there are three times as many white people as blacks. I was looking for data on violence and death during/after arrests, and as a percentage of those arrested, it seems that blacks are more likely than whites to be harmed.

Although, to challenge the meme that is currently destroying the country, I'm not convinced his motivation was racial. He may well just be a bully and was showing off his 'toughness' to the younger cops.

I can easily imagine him doing the same thing to a white guy. Twice as many white people die in police custody as blacks.

And everyone no matter who your gets to use one votes, and I don't think voter fraud can overwhelm a national election.
Of course, there have been times when 73 (million) year old me dino has been proven to be wrong about this and that or the other.

I am a fan of police, but not all police.

The policeman that killed George Floyd needs to be turned in to Alpo. You can just watch that video and see the satisfaction the little pencil-necked Barney Fife had by holding down a person he had no chance of even slowing down without a badge, gun and cuffs. After the guy is on the ground, why does he need to sit on him? Useless member of the human race we can do without.

Defunding police over this, accomplishes nothing but reasserting government control. Doing this at the same time massive gun control bills are being prepared is a perfect harbinger for totalitarianism. You will not protect you. We will protect you.

Fiscal power is infinite. The 16th is the worst!

Remember, this has been going on for 4 years, the Google data says Black Lives Matter spiked at July 2016, and then a burp in 2018 at election time, and then now. Coincidence? The "Defund Police" is just a "genius" idea from the same cesspool that brought you COVID19. (See the video I posted, Adolf can give you the inside dope on it.....)

Which is why they care Less about black American lives...including those that fight in their name.

I teased a liberal friend of mine last night. "If you're not protesting, your silence implies that you're complicit!" She just smiled and chuckled. Got her good...

The New Yellow Slimes ran an op-ed that said that family members should disown other family members if they refused to support Black Lives Matter.
Yes, this is the same NYT that refused to run an op-ed from a US Senator that encouraged use of force to stop law breaking looters and arsonists.
That op-ed in favor of stopping law breaking looters was not acceptable to the NYT, who instead approved an op-ed that encourages Nazi-Germany style action against family members who disagree with law breaking looters.

It is surprising that cowardly CEO's ( for example, Wal-mart) surrender their right to free speech and pledge to donate millions to the thugs who run BLM?
They don't want their stores to be burned to the ground while the police who are controlled by coward Democrat mayors do nothing.
Instead the CEO's should be paying for armed private security forces to defend their property.

Polls show that only 16% of voters favor lowering funding for police; 65% favor keeping up funding for police.
Among the higher income group (over $100k/yr) on the other hand twice as many favor cutting police funding - those who live in safe places and can afford private security.