I'm not sure I understand. "A globalist view of control is a primary driver."

Primary driver of what?

Perhaps you are trying to make a complex process, and problem, more simple that it actually is.

I think you mean "talking" to them. Yes, I've found that true. "They" are unable to reason and know nothing about human nature. Marx set it up that way.

Ayn Rand, in Dagny Taggart, was not afraid to use force when it was needed. Read Atlas Shrugged, Chapter X, "In the name of the best within us":

"Calmly and impersonally, she who would have hesitated to fire at an animal, pulled the trigger and fired straight at the heart of a man who had wanted to exist without the responsibility of consciousness."

He failed to choose. On his own.

I expect the best in people; not the worst.

We are speaking out, but for some the whole connection has not yet become clear. It is the quest for collectivism with UN as head of gov. Agenda 21 calls for epopulation, 80 countries have a quota. The vaccine is the death route. Once enough are dead, they can push the Gren hoax on the rest who are either dying, in chock, or sheep. One cannot just sit by, which is why I block every day wherever I can. Then I go for cooffee with my like minded friends, share upadates and urge any around us to join in or learn. It is hard to tell someone they are dying as their immune sysem is erased 5% per month, but you owrk around that. Many in the world around us are beginning to wake up to collectivism, even if they do not know it bay name, they know hoe it is affecting their world. Never stop fighting, this is too important. I even take Trump to task for putting the hunter story over the Green scam deal, akal Agenda 21, he is not off the hook. It will be individualism or totalitarian collectivism, there is not a choice we can allow. Every contact you make, has many of their own to spread the word.

Or we can attempt to revive the U.S.Constitution, as it is the very document that supposedly protects private property.

Your response about two classes, i.e. no middle class, completely explains "white" hatred and injecting college students with the "jab." They are sterilizing and eliminating the well educated, which will help destroy the middle class. Of course, Covid 19 lockdowns has destroyed the middle class. How does a government destroy Hollywood, sports, movies, bars, music, and most small businesses? By fear.

Being 'vocal' trying to convince others of the morality and advantage of liberty and being productive is a noble profession. Teaching. However if the student is unwilling to learn and applies irrational techniques in excusing their behavior the effort is a waste of time. I have tried for decades to learn how to get people past their cognitive dissonance and have not found a successful method.
The majority of the herd prefers to be led and told they are okay even when moving toward destruction. The paradox might be recognized by some but if the majority is accepting their slavery even those who recognize it for what it is will prefer to move with the majority than feel its wrath for being independent.
Perhaps the best we can accomplish is to search out others of equal morality and work with them, live parallel with the slaves and teach those that will learn.
Currently the 'system' is in control of so many aspects of the lives of the slaves that any attempt to move them toward liberty will be met with anger and violence. Even those that recognize one aspect where they want to be free accept slavery in every other facet of their lives. Trying to move them all the way to liberty is impossible.
The analogy I use is; they are deep within a maze that has no outlet and they are moving around thinking that they might be getting out. In reality they are keeping the hive alive without ever getting closer to liberty.

I say that, mainly because I have found on other platforms, more interest in finding out what people can do to change things, and more anger related to the "authorities" manufacturing the feelings of oppression.

Being loudly vocal is a start, but only a start.

And I'm surprised too at the life this thread has taken on, but more than that, I am glad. It is needed. A wake up call maybe, to counter "woke" and CRT, and cancel culture.

Cancel the very culture that has reduced suffering in so many places? Will you settle for that? Cancel the culture that first and foremost produced electricity, the greatest discovery and use of a discovery since the taming of fire, where ever that took place? Along with so much else, especially where disease is concerned?

Are you not angry?

Humans are lazy by design. This was how all this was able to happen.

A globalist view of control is a primary driver. Authoritarian control depends on society being reduced to two classes: the elite, and the less affluent masses. The existence of a middle class, which retains a distressing degree of independence and modest wealth, is a serious speed bump on the way to absolute power, and the US, more than any other big economic actor, feeds global creation of a middle class. It must be taken down in order to enable control globally.

If you read Atlas Shrugged, I believe that we are trying to pull away from them on our own. There is no taking to them.

Well, Philosopher blarman, I posit first of all that is not greed that drives the people you are describing; it is power. And power is an addiction, something hard to contain. Chasing that high.

Money is a power tool, as Ellery Queen said in his great little mystery: "The King is Dead".

And one other thing. It is envy, avarice, and self-pity---emotions that should be mortal sins, but aren't---that produce the socialist response to success. Thoughts like "I haven't done as well as you because you have oppressed me, kept me down, you have done it at my expense". That's getting pretty old in my book.

There is no such thing as the "oppressor" and "oppressed" division in the social order. There is finger pointing and blaming others when it has been my responsibility alone for my "oppressed condition".

Dr Zarkov, answer me this: how does the push for a one-world-government, a New World Order, fit into your assessment of the situation?

How does the control of worldwide resources, control of global trade and commerce, and control of international financial capital flows, by a few, fit into your view of events in America? Do you see a connection?

Socialism is now seemingly reigning supreme because it is amenable to demagoguery: "We're doing it for you"" (Hitler), or Obamma: "I just want to help people." Or Hillary: "It takes a village to raise a child". To which I retort: "Maybe in Kenya it takes a village to raise a child, but over here in America it takes a mother AND a father.

Three generations. I agree. These are not real Americans, men that would match the mountains, women that matched the men.

Leftists knew real Americans would not tolerate forms of Socialism and Communism, and yet their tendency to abide by the law is strong. So they had to "soften" the populace, to weaken their resolve. To "use their morals against them". (Saul Alinsky). To guilt them into voting for a black man, a Marxist, who was told he could always incite riots to prove any opposition to his (their) policies was racially motivated.

The Leftist/Liberals made being called "racist" the worst thing in the world. And yet have no real, nor actual definition of the word. Political correctness.

You have identified something concrete, rather than an abstract concept such as "the Individual vs the Collective; something we can see and fight. Good.

I've partly read it. Patel is close.

I wrote this in a comment on this thread:

The Democrats---Leftist/Liberals---cheated in 2012 (Eric Holder and the Black Panthers, and ACORN, and every other radical organization in America) and they tried to cheat in 2016 (Romney had done some of his own investigating after his "defeat" in 2012, so we were able to prevent it from happening again). In 2020 the overwhelming majority of Americans voted for Trump, and the trap was set. We knew Trump was the choice of Americans, so we knew they cheated.

We KNEW, Dobrien.

They use the collective power to take it from us. We wont get it back as long as they have the power to steal it. BUT, we can try and stop their expropriation by not doing the things that make the money, or at least make it in the ways they can know about...

It is the same throughout history. People tend to sell the freedom for seemingly safety and laziness. The want someone to take care of them or others. Free societies just seem to devolve into this mess time after time. The only problem now is finding a place to escape to. Imho

The only wealth the collectivists have is from the producers. You should be saying, take our money back.

I will, Dobrien.

By the way, I suspect you are as angry as I am.

And definitely not for the human species.

You are paraphrasing Marx. "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need". Words of the metaphorical devil.

That philosophical concept does not bode well for either the able, or the needy.

It is much larger and deeper than the collective vs. the individual; it is the governments vs. the people. The government has used the weapon of fear to control the people with Covid 19, and it has worked beautifully. We must tell the people that the only thing government is truthful about is that we are all going to die. Don't fear death, it is inevitable. Stand up and fight for your survival to leave freely until you die. They have created this fear world-wide. That is our battle -- to tell them they need to live freely until they die.

go galt and starve the collectivists. take their money, and their power goes away

elections wont be postponed, they will be just rendered useless as they were in 2020. The next push will be for all persons, whether legal or illegal, can vote to get the promised goodies from the socialists.