I have to read that scene again later tonight - as I remember, it is not suicide; the social worker begins to lecture her on being a good society lady, and she screams "Not your world!" and runs away from her, accidentally? not seeing the barrier and into a ditch of some type.
I did have a thought, after reading someone else's complaint about the many scenes of driving through the forest, that they could have used that time to make the torture-and-rescue scene really work.
So little time to meet everyone. I was working hard to get Objectivist signatures in my AS book and thanks to all that did, but I sure missed a whole bunch of people. We will just have to do this again.
Having never been to Vegas, I kept wonder if all these girls running around or stretching all over the place in yoga shirts and leggings were in a show, or if they worked there, until I saw the "Pole Convention" listed on the conference room schedulen at the front desk.
Agree with your assesment on the cast - Galt was great, as was Tobolowski, and this was the best James Taggart of them all. I didn't think Regan's Dagny portrayed the strength and intelligence that the first one did, though I liked her a lot.
Haven't seen the movie, but I tend to be wary when large groups of people say the same thing at the same time. "We want.." is kinda begging. Of course I don 't have the context. I do love the idea of the question being asked however. For me the point does not turn on demanding a specific leader. Rather, figure out how to be one. That said I was once at a rally where Jack Kemp was politicking and I chanted his name with the rest of the crowd.
Posted by WBD 10 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
Nope. I'm in Calgary and there's nothing north of the 49th or even in the closest state (Montana). I have the first two on disc so I'll just complete the collection.
I can understand the chanting at events like you are referring to being inspirational. I just don't remember chants like that in the book and think there were other ways to convey the people "waking up" that would have been more in line with the book. Who was it that was cast? You can private message if you like. You've piqued my curiosity.
I agree completely regarding Galt's torture and rescue scene. It was confusing and there was no real resolution of what happened to these guys. And I didn't like the otherworldly glowy misty vision of Galt carrying Dagny while "dead." Seemed very cliche.
The problem I had with the chanting was that for me it evoked a mob-like mentality. John Galt did not want to be a leader of the masses and to hear that chant throughout several scenes, it really started to bother me.
Posted by $CBJ 10 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
If some elements were glossed over due to time constraints, perhaps a "director's cut" could be made available on the DVD. Or at least some deleted scenes.
THOUGHTS/REACTIONS on the movie After the Producer show, I walked out weeping - it was so beautifully done. I just walked up to Joan and put my arms around her and said "thank you, thank you for doing it. " yes, of course I had quibbles and disagreements with what was done. Within the confines - actually, forget the confines, it is a well-done piece of work that delivers its message very well. A couple of more serious things that introduced some WTF?!? cognitive dissonance had to do with Galt's torture and rescue. never goof up things that your average viewer will notice. "Replace the fuse" was so elementary that the emphasis on Galt's superiority and purpose was lost. It'supposed to be something only an EE would know, and he tells them. The Wizard will have his own comments on the machine, so I'll just say that it did look like the sort of "thrown together" stuff those people were capable of doing. Secondly, what happened to the torturers at that point? People were running and the action was confusing. SPOILER Galt's death was gratuitous. It would have had as much impact if he had passed out. I thought the homogeneous look of the houses in the valley was a mistake - I spent several minutes wondering why they all were built to the same pattern and missed the action. There was no indication, except for the doctor, that anyone was continuing his "real" occupation while in the Valley. I got the sense that the were all gardening, not composing, inventing, writing - their real jobs.
More later; we're still on the road and my tablet's charged.
or yes.
I have the first two on disc so I'll just complete the collection.
To me, it showed "the people" waking up, not going to sleep.
Trying to avoid a spoiler here, but there's a reason why the man who starts the chant was cast.
I've been to quite a few of his events, I never once felt like part of "the mob".
I will probably be going to see ASp3 in Denver on the 12th.
Before the movie starts, I will try to get the theater chanting it as well.
Other Gulchers of like mind, feel free to do the same at your local theater.
After the Producer show, I walked out weeping - it was so beautifully done. I just walked up to Joan and put my arms around her and said "thank you, thank you for doing it. "
yes, of course I had quibbles and disagreements with what was done.
Within the confines - actually, forget the confines, it is a well-done piece of work that delivers its message very well.
A couple of more serious things that introduced some WTF?!? cognitive dissonance had to do with Galt's torture and rescue.
never goof up things that your average viewer will notice. "Replace the fuse" was so elementary that the emphasis on Galt's superiority and purpose was lost. It'supposed to be something only an EE would know, and he tells them. The Wizard will have his own comments on the machine, so I'll just say that it did look like the sort of "thrown together" stuff those people were capable of doing.
Secondly, what happened to the torturers at that point? People were running and the action was confusing.
SPOILER
Galt's death was gratuitous. It would have had as much impact if he had passed out.
I thought the homogeneous look of the houses in the valley was a mistake - I spent several minutes wondering why they all were built to the same pattern and missed the action.
There was no indication, except for the doctor, that anyone was continuing his "real" occupation while in the Valley. I got the sense that the were all gardening, not composing, inventing, writing - their real jobs.
More later; we're still on the road and my tablet's charged.
Thank's for providing this thread. Now that I have read the comments, I am more anxious.
Regards,
O.A.
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