Discovery of massive galaxies upends critical theories about origin of universe

Posted by $ blarman 2 years, 2 months ago to Science
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Science at work! Create a hypothesis. Test the hypothesis. Verify. Then adjust or discard the hypothesis when direct data contradicts conventional wisdom or accepted theory.

The implications of this discovery force a re-examination of the Big Bang Theory at a minimum.


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  • Posted by mccannon01 2 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I have heard of that theory and contemplate it when I see advances in AI, but let's not forget the "A" part of AI, that is it's not the real thing. IMHO, dabbling in AI as a replacement to man is like playing with viral gain of function - an extinction event, not an improvement. I have come to appreciate there is more to this universe than meets the eye and sentient life is part of it. AI invented by man along the road is not sentient life. If man brings about his own extinction, then he is a failed sentient event. The universe will try again - here or elsewhere.

    Edit add: I believe the life contained in the bag of water can transcend being in the bag. AI will never do that.
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  • Posted by jack1776 2 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Have you heard of the Bootstrap theory where we are only a stepping stone for the true evolutionary step into artificial intelligence? Once we develop the technology then allow for it to iterate new generations of its self on its own accord, then there is no use for us mostly bags of water and the AI will be done with us.
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  • Posted by mhubb 2 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    i pray each day that we will become better

    bastard in Florida shot someone
    left the scene
    came back later
    shot and killed a 24 year old reports, wounded his camera man
    broke into a home, shot the mother, killed the 9 year old girl

    i am having a hard time with this

    yes, i pray each day that we WILL be better
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  • Posted by mccannon01 2 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    In universe time man is still in his infancy. A work in progress. Extinction is a possibility, but so is becoming something greater.
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  • Posted by mhubb 2 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Amen!!!

    i sincerely Hope and Pray that Man is not the best the Universe can do in 18 billions years

    LOL
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  • Posted by mhubb 2 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    same

    they claim space can expand faster than the speed of light

    space between galaxies expands, why not the space between stars, minor galaxies and major (or is there a certain gravity potential that stops space from expanding??)

    universe is a claimed 18 billion years old, or so
    the galaxies we see had to have time to get far away from us and time for the light to get back to us, while the space between us is still expanding, taking longer for the light to reach us

    would love to have someone explain this all
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  • Posted by $ 25n56il4 2 years, 2 months ago
    Why all the surprise? The Bible tells us 'In the beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth. It is a bid facisous to think we are all alone out here.
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  • Posted by jack1776 2 years, 2 months ago
    I’ve always have had a very difficult time in swallowing the current theory of the expansion of the universe. What I don’t understand is if the theory states that as we observe distant galaxies with more red shift in the light admitted then we observe from galaxies that are nearer to our own galaxy. This observation is said to prove an expanding universe… The galaxies further away are travailing faster away from us then our closer neighborhood galaxies.

    This observation seems to explain the complete opposite and that we live in a closed universe. The theory seems to leave the dimension of time out of the theory. The light emitted from the further galaxies were released much longer ago then the light from nearer galaxies. The light in both cases is received by us at the same time.

    I think that the observation would support the fact that the expansion is slowing down. Light emitted from the further galaxy was emitted longer ago at a faster velocity (old light fast) but light emitted from closer galaxies was emitted more recent at a slower velocity (younger light slow). We truly don’t know as we can’t measure the velocity of the galaxy today but only 13.8 billion years ago.

    This discovery of larger then expected galaxies is just another hole in the wall for Hubble’s Big Bang theory.
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  • Posted by $ BobCat 2 years, 2 months ago
    One thing that is NOT constant throughout is “time”. So why is is that scientists are shocked to discover something that is ‘Time Displaced’ ? Besides, there are unknowns processes and reactions occurring in more than the 3 dimensions that our minds are incapable of conceptualizing.
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