The Civil War Didn't 'Settle' The Question Of State Secession
Posted by freedomforall 8 months, 3 weeks ago to Government
Excerpt:
"While the Constitution doesn’t address secession, it does have a provision that implicitly grants that power to the states. According to the 10th Amendment, “the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.” Since the Constitution does not expressly deny the states of that power (nor delegate it to the central government), secession is reserved to the states.
Even by itself, the word “delegated” further substantiates states’ right to secede, by underscoring that the United States was formed as a compact of independent states — with “states” used in a sense that puts Pennsylvania on par with Mexico or France. Those sovereign states created the federal government to serve them, only granting the new entity powers that James Madison described as “few and defined,” while the states retained powers that were “numerous and indefinite.”
“Delegated” validates that the states are rightly the masters of the federal government they created, and should therefore be free to voluntarily exit the compact just as they voluntarily entered it. As historian Brion McClanahan argued in a 2015 speech, “Sovereignty can be delegated, but a delegation assumes the ability to rescind that power.”
Speaking on the Constitution’s 50th anniversary, former president and statesman John Quincy Adams said:
“If the day should ever come, (may Heaven avert it,) when the affections of the people of these states shall be alienated from each other; when the fraternal spirit shall give away to cold indifference, or collisions of interest shall fester into hatred…far better will it be for the people of the disunited states to part in friendship from each other, than to be held together by constraint.”"
"While the Constitution doesn’t address secession, it does have a provision that implicitly grants that power to the states. According to the 10th Amendment, “the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.” Since the Constitution does not expressly deny the states of that power (nor delegate it to the central government), secession is reserved to the states.
Even by itself, the word “delegated” further substantiates states’ right to secede, by underscoring that the United States was formed as a compact of independent states — with “states” used in a sense that puts Pennsylvania on par with Mexico or France. Those sovereign states created the federal government to serve them, only granting the new entity powers that James Madison described as “few and defined,” while the states retained powers that were “numerous and indefinite.”
“Delegated” validates that the states are rightly the masters of the federal government they created, and should therefore be free to voluntarily exit the compact just as they voluntarily entered it. As historian Brion McClanahan argued in a 2015 speech, “Sovereignty can be delegated, but a delegation assumes the ability to rescind that power.”
Speaking on the Constitution’s 50th anniversary, former president and statesman John Quincy Adams said:
“If the day should ever come, (may Heaven avert it,) when the affections of the people of these states shall be alienated from each other; when the fraternal spirit shall give away to cold indifference, or collisions of interest shall fester into hatred…far better will it be for the people of the disunited states to part in friendship from each other, than to be held together by constraint.”"
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Governments Make Slaves.
Once you adopt that view. EVERYTHING not only makes sense, it becomes predictable.
You want to LEAVE our country and take your assets. NO. We tax your assets first.
We need more people to tax. Open the border. Their morals and quality do not matter. We don't intend to let them lead. They are the raw material we need to keep our "Government" afloat... Because we STOPPED pretending to be "Of and By the People"...
They will keep the illusion going. Until they have the control mechanisms (CBDC, Social Credit Scores, etc. etc.) that would AUTOMATE that process so that it is not too "hard" on our "owners".
And the "House Techies" who are treated better FOR NOW... Will build it all, and laugh because the evil "other" party deserve this... And NOBODY would ever ABUSE such power (if we see WHAT COULD BE and IGNORE what HAS BEEN, so as to not burden it...)
The death knell was 1913 establishment of the FED and a national tax with the vote of a handful of seditious traitors during an absentee Congress over the 1913 Christmas break. Signed into law by an equally dirty rat name Woodrow Wilson.
Stick a fork in America, she's been done long before you or I were ever born.
Can we fix it?
Can Trump fix it?
The fact the evil powers that be want him dead so bad, methinks he might just have a shot at it.
Otherwise, why would they be so desperate to get him out of the way?
But I doubt even he could have predicted how insane things would become.
Lincoln was a power-mad traitor, who trashed the First Amendment, and threw people who spoke against his policies in military prisons, without benefit of trial.
Heck, you didn't even have to say anything he didn't like. All that was needed was a neighbor who didn't like you to make an unfounded accusation against you, and whoosh! Off to the hoosegow. Soldiers busting in your door in the dead of night, dragging you out of your bed, tearing your house apart looking for anything to use against you, terrifying your wife and kids. (Just like the bad old days of communism, isn't it, boys and girls?)
Francis Key Howard (grandson of Francis Scott Key) was a newspaper editor, and a victim of this illegal policy. He wrote a book about it, called "Fourteen Months in American Bastiles". You can still buy it. It's available on Amazon, http://Bookshop.org, and for free here: https://archive.org/details/fourteenm...
(As an aside, the publishers of Key's book went to the hoosegow, too.)
Here's a little excerpt:
"When I looked out in the morning, I could not help being struck by an odd and not pleasant coincidence. On that day forty-seven years before my grandfather, Mr. Francis Scott Key, then prisoner on a British ship, had witnessed the bombardment of Fort McHenry. When on the following morning the hostile fleet drew off, defeated, he wrote the song so long popular throughout the country, "The Star-Spangled Banner". As I stood upon the very scene of that conflict, I could not but contrast my position with his, forty-seven years before. The flag which he had then so proudly hailed, I saw waving at the same place over the victims of as vulgar and brutal a despotism as modern times have witnessed."
D.C. NIFO (99.999%)
I would be very surprised if the Deep State would allow even the smallest exception to the false mantra that secession is treason.
They can't afford to lose even one citizen/slave or the flood gates of liberty would drown the treasonous tyrants.
D.C. NIFO
I find this to be similar.
While I agree that all other powers belong to the states. Once you Join into a relationship with some level of binding contracts/interest.
Getting out is never so easy.
The entire reason to have that agreement allowed for Interstates, Power Lines that cross state boundaries. Etc. Etc. And lead to the greatness this country exemplifies.
On the other hand, population elected senators was NOT in the design. And states should be PULLING their senators first. Removing the power of the Federal Government to pass laws without the requisite support from Senators.
We've broken everything.
I really want the Bull in the China Shop version of Trump. I want him to "reduce" the FBI, CIA, DOJ, Homeland, DOEnergy, DOEducation...
By 99% Maybe even 99.999%
Then assign the whistle blowers of each to help rebuild them "SLOWLY".
BTW, Every CIA/FBI agent not immediately re-hired, will have ALL of their Clearances Revoked. And FLAGGED to require an extensive 49 month review before they can ever have them restored.
Basically GUT the infrastructure of the Deep State, and make them have to sit it out. Also, make it impossible for the NEXT President to quickly re-assemble it.
Don't get me started on the Federal Reserve. Greenbacks... 100% With our own Treasury Window.
The blue states are rapidly losing manufacturing, with those companies relocating to friendlier red states. The red states also contain almost all of the food supplies of the US. For those reasons alone I don't think any secessionist move will go unchallenged by the DC hierarchy, resulting in a new civil war that will be the end of the republic.
A couple of months or so ago me dino read "People's Republic" followed by its prequel, "Indian Country" all about the USA split apart into red states and blue states.
These two books were passed on to me by my most conservative of four brothers who usually passes unto me dino historical novels and Christmas gifted me the AS DVDs that ultimately led me into The Gulch a decade ago.
The cover of People's Republic will show you who are the good guys and who are the bad for mean and stupid brainwashed sheeple guys.
The blue states are going to shit for being borderline commies still all into D.E.I. hires.
"Indian Country" is about a battle that turns southern Indiana red in, ahem, two ways.
https://www.amazon.com/Peoples-Republ...
Today is the first time I'm aware that Kurt also wrote "The Attack."
war warning were sent to all US Pacific commands
in the Philippines there were followed
what happened there was due to lack of experience and changing plans from fighting on the beaches and moving all forces to Bataan.
Planes were in the air over our bases, they landed to refuel and then the Japanese showed up due to bad weather over Formosa that delayed their attack
us commanders in Peal totally did NOTHING to protect the bases or Fleet. they are 100% at fault for doing NOTHING
again, it was US policy to allow the enemy to attack first, lack of prep is on all their heads, commanders on up
luck matters and an Act of God also matters
i see God in how WW2 started and in J-13 / Trump
we had no obligation to sell Japan oil
the commanders on site at Pearl Harbor were the ones at fault
it was their job to protect the base
the Army commander was responsible for protecting The Fleet when it was in harbor
that FDR wanted Japan to shoot first is not in question. i still believe they all thought the Philippines would be the main target. Carriers were still secondary behind Battleships (General and Admirals still always fight the last war...)
there was sufficient warning sent to Pearl nd Manilla
If the latter, then you should favor secession, not a union against your consent.
It only exists for those who consent according to natural law and the US Constitution.
Lincoln was a traitor, a war criminal, and a mass murderer.
FDR did nearly the same to the Japanese by cutting off their access to fuel,
leaving Pearl Harbor virtually undefended, and then not informing the US Navy
that a Japanese attack was imminent.
Two clear traitors to America, guilty of war crimes and mass murder.
When an overwhelming large percent of the People no longer agree and accept that idea, America will cease to exist as a union.
When the idea dies, so does the body.
if the states did not believe they could leave the union (after a violation of said contract between them) they would never have joined in the first place
the South made the mistake of firing the first shot, allowing the federal government to declare an insurrection.
people have the right to leave the union
why would not that same right default to states?