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California wants to own its own refinery! What would Ellis Wyatt think?

Posted by $ jbrenner 2 months ago to Government
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California policymakers are considering state ownership of one or more oil refineries to ensure a reliable supply of gasoline as the number of refineries in the state declines.

An oil industry trade group questions whether the state would have the expertise to effectively run a refinery, citing a lack of “understanding of the industry and how it works.”

Russia. China. Venezuela. Iran. More than a dozen countries make gasoline at state-owned refineries.

Could California be next on the list?


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  • Posted by $ allosaur 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I could not remember the name of that stupid little fish. So I opted not to mention that nevertheless stupid little reason for that overall stupidity.
    Maybe all that stupid shit should just be called don't Bogart that joint tippy hippy Californian Gaia worship always going up in Woke cool daddy smoke.
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  • Posted by $ 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    And they think that they will never run out of our money. Looters and moochers beware! DOGE is coming after you like a can of RAID to cockroaches.
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  • Posted by $ 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I used to teach a petroleum refining class, but don't any more due to lack of interest. And yes, we do start out with how the refinery evolved over time.
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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 2 months ago
    I lived in CA for 93 days... I Moved out quickly.

    Anyways, I know a lot of decent people who go there and change. They buy into the BS. They raise children the state has to incarcerate and wash their hands of any responsibility when they laughed when the young teenager started smoking weed "We all go through those stages". And then he refuses to go to school, and wants to stay in the basement, smoking weed, eating pizza with their friends.
    You gave them EVERYTHING Except direction, discipline, and goals. And your plan was to turn the world over to people like them...
    Congrats... It worked. Look at the people running the place into the ground. All looters.
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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The introduction sentence is quite powerful. I Totally agree. Again, I think of software, when I graduated High School in 1985, microsoft's C Compiler came on a single DISK, and used a BATCH file to install. No setup program. NADA.

    I can only imagine what a Refinery looked like in the 1800s. And how they bolted on trick after trick to extract more value. Ethanol, Methanol, etc. etc.
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  • Posted by diessos 2 months ago
    The same people that can't build a train are going to run a refinery?
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  • Posted by $ 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There was a time in the oil refining business, and times I was involved with multiple environmentally friendly alternate energy methods. No more. I can't take the constant changes in what gets deemed environmentally friendly being less environmentally friendly and more expensive.

    As Ayn Rand so aptly summarized in Atlas Shrugged:

    "But you expect industrial giants — who plan in terms of decades, invest in terms of generations and undertake ninety-nine-year contracts — to continue to function and produce, not knowing what random caprice in the skull of what random official will descend upon them at what moment to demolish the whole of their effort.

    With the sign of the dollar as our symbol — the sign of free trade and free minds — we will move to reclaim this country once more from the impotent savages who never discovered its nature, its meaning, its splendor."
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  • Posted by dansail 2 months ago
    Wyatt Ellis would probably have a good long laugh, but also feel a strain of pity for the poor Californians who would be saddled with the boondoggle that has always become State run ventures.
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  • Posted by $ rainman0720 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    But Dino, they had to save that stupid little fish! Of course that's more important than their residents. Right?
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  • Posted by $ rainman0720 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    My first thought as well. If California really wants to go all green, how can they justify something that goes completely against that?
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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 2 months ago
    A Refinery Represents 120yrs of optimizing outputs based on crude inputs. Certain refineries "prefer" light sweet over dark, etc. etc.

    I BEG everyone to zoom into a picture of a refinery as I did. And just look at the various pipes going around. Just IMAGINE the CA Government DEI Hires trying to figure out where ONE of those pipes go, over and over again.

    Could they do it? Certainly NOT profitably. And probably not in my life time!

    Now, here's a GENIUS idea. Stop ATTACKING the owners of the existing refineries, and help them DECIDE to stay in CA.

    But that's kinda like making sure there is water in the fire hydrant BEFORE the fire. The SIZE of that MISTAKE is not completely apparent until the fire strikes.

    The Refineries leaving is the telltale sign you waited too long, because those that were leaving, probably put off maintenance for the last 10yrs, milking every last dollar out of their soon to be lost investment.

    INSANITY. If only CA could get cars to run on hot air... Then their politicians could actually become useful!
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  • Posted by $ Radio_Randy 2 months ago
    I thought it was California that shut all their refineries down and was forced to buy their fuel from other states.

    Funny how what goes around comes around...
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  • Posted by $ 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Indeed, Thoritsu. Florida Tech had lots of Venezuelan students. I was training them to be Galts, d'Anconias, and Reardens.
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 2 months ago
    Oh hell, no. Look at how well they have managed forest and brush and fire mitigation. And then they want to own their own thing to blow up? They chased every oil company out with asinine regulations, taxes and fees, and now they want their own? Yea, that will go as well as their bullet train has....
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Used to be a bunch at "our" university back in the day! I wonder where the ones I knew are now ... if not out of Venezuela, I bet the wish they were!
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The cretins who run California can't even save enough water (with reservoirs ridiculously kept empty) to fight the wildfires they always have.
    Speaking of wildfires, an oil/gas refineries strikes me dino as a great place to start another stupid California policy maker fire.
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  • Posted by Lakestalker 2 months ago
    If they’re dictating that everything will run on electricity by 2030, I think it should be illegal for CA to have ANY refineries within their borders…
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