The Obama Regime Terrifies a Normal Person/Family for 4 Years with ATF Charges

Posted by scojohnson 10 years, 6 months ago to Government
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I actually know Grant fairly well, we were neighbors in my old neighborhood about 10 years ago. Couldn't meet a nicer, harder working guy, did firewall network engineering for AT&T at the time I think. He bought a Ruger handgun from a police officer, went through the required FFL dealer/transfer procedures, filled out the ATF registration forms, and apparently the handgun wasn't on the magical "CA Dept of Justice Approved List" so the ATF went after him like an arms smuggler. This was a regular Ruger handgun, lets not miss sight of that. In Nevada or Arizona, it would be perfectly legal to buy in a parking lot.


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  • Posted by DaveM49 10 years, 6 months ago
    "There is no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is to crack down on criminals. When there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking the law. Create a nation of lawbreakers and then you can cash in on the guilt. Now that's the system!" --Atlas Shrugged, of course.

    http://www.amazon.com/Three-Felonies-Day... "Three Felonies A Day", a book which describes how the average professional, merely in the act of living out an ordinary life, probably commits several federal crimes per day. All that is necessary is the desire on the part of a government official to have them prosecuted.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I say that all the time, if you like Mexican or Canadian socialized medicine & social structure so much, move.
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  • Posted by RonC 10 years, 6 months ago
    In the 17th century people feeling put upon by their government could go and find a new country, or start one. 400 years later the world is a much smaller place, and there is really no pioneer place where freedom rules. It really complicates things for people seeking relief from this fascist. It seems the last great hope for the world hinges on one or two elections. Something I have never understood is if they like European Socialism or Communism or fascism so much better than freedom, why don't they go there and have what they like? Why destroy American Capitalism so they can live like Europeans? Ahhh! It must have something to do with the wealth they can earn here while preaching the benefits of life over there; reference Michael Moore.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The AR15 lower receivers have the serial number on it, when you order the lower receiver, depending on state laws, you either have to pick it up from an FFL, or there may be a waiting period to pick up the lower receiver, or the seller transfers the serial number into your son's name. The rest of the parts of an AR are not tracked.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 10 years, 6 months ago
    What a different world I live in.
    I once bought an AR-15 at a Birmingham Civic Center gun show and carried it in full public view like a suitcase (recall the M16 sights?) down a sidewalk and crossed a street to reach a parking lot under an interstate bridge. Other gun customers were doing the same with assorted weapons.
    What blew my mind was a beggar who asked for money when I was still on civic center property and holding that weapon. I next encountered a security guard I sent running after that beggar's butt. I walked on.
    The rifle was a present for my son. He wanted to own an AR-15. Later he was forced to sell it to some guy when he got into a financial pinch.
    Since then he has mail ordered parts and built his own AR-15.
    It ain't got no serial number, y'all. Bwahaha!
    My son also packs a .45 and can shoot straight too. Proud of my boy.
    Yeehaw! Sweet home Alabama!
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  • Posted by RobMorse 10 years, 6 months ago
    I covered that in my podcast. The CA DoJ and ATF are trying to discourage off roster sales until they are outlawed next year.
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  • Posted by $ Susanne 10 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    And other times, one gets elected to the oval office and keeps those other lawyers busy (and rolling in dough)...
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  • Posted by khalling 10 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    it is the story of a guy told in one day. it's like 24 without any action or plot. literally slice of life signifying nothing. fancy phrases here and there
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  • Posted by Snoogoo 10 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I read it in high school and I cannot remember what happened in it.. that means it was not a good book. If it's good, you remember it.
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  • Posted by khalling 10 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    no. there's a bunch of cooking up of kidneys and liver for breakfast, loser life in the middle and the wife having a 30 minute climax at the end. not a hero in sight
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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 10 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    True. I have not read the James Joyce novel. It is one I have never gotten around to. Is it worth it?
    I was thinking of the President and Ulysses (the latinised Odysseus) from Homer's epic poem.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 6 months ago
    By the way, this is a $379.00 (retail) handgun made is Prescott, AZ... not exactly an "assault rifle" that the driveby-strike media would like to characterize it as. It probably has a clip of about 6 rounds plus 1 in the chamber (California allows a 10 round clip) and its only definable characteristic is that it is relatively small (a 2.75" barrel). The police officer that sold it to him probably used it as a secondary weapon in an ankle holster or something. Incidentally, the police officer and the Federal Firearms Dealer were not charged... Only Grant, because he was apparently the responsible party to have known it "wasn't" on the California approved-purchase list. Generally, to be on the approved list, the manufacturer has to pay a fee and get the gun tested or whatever by the California DoJ. However, as a trend, they approve very few new guns and usually remove a hundred or so from the list each year with a very visible downward trend to zero.

    http://www.ruger.com/products/lcp/models...
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  • Posted by 10 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Fortunately, the CalGuns Foundation (a 2nd Amendment Group) picked up his legal fees and this became a case law precedent to hopefully prevent other malicious prosecution.
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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 10 years, 6 months ago
    Great story! Proper outcome... Only one problem: How does Ulysses recover from all the expense, anguish, mental pain and suffering?
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  • Posted by 10 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You only have to worry about $3500 a week in court fees for 4 weeks, and $500 / hour for a litigation attorney to get you off.
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