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Could this be our Gulch?

Posted by terrycan 10 years, 2 months ago to Culture
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Pitcairn Island was made famous by the novel "Mutiny on the Bounty." Imagine the possibilities. Britain might be happy to grant it independence. Imagine a few nuclear reactors. A small ship yard and a steel mill. Some high rise living and it could work. We could truly hide in plain sight. How would you develope the island?


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  • Posted by teresitalyn 10 years, 2 months ago
    I'm happily living under the radar in Mexico in early retirement. Wouldn't want to move to cold climate. If people are going to live happily, it should be in a place where neither heating or cooling is required (or at least not much). Ecuador would probably leave you alone.
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  • Posted by borzoilady 10 years, 2 months ago
    I am just wondering how the gulch would handle and if they would welcome older members who have no particular skills. Willing to work but not a past "affluent" member of society.
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  • Posted by Cocobaby61 10 years, 2 months ago
    Love the idea!. I volunteer any skill I have: writing, publishing, gardening, retail, easy sewing (so not a tailor!), medical, cooking, could raise some chickens...What are we looking at for storm activity/extremes in climate, etc? And what will we use for currency--will we need it?
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  • Posted by 10 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Australian gun ownership is very restricted. Canada is too. NZ offers more freedom. None of these countries are even close to the USA.
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  • Posted by davidmcnab 10 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yeah, 3D printing is going to have to go nanoscale before it becomes genuinely useful. And by that time, replacement organ printing. Which means, as long as the brain holds out, immortality becomes real - to those with the budget.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It will happen. There are challenges. Crystal structure and bond arrangement. These factors control elasticity, hardness, and strength of steels.
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  • Posted by scojohnson 10 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Dams & what-not can create surface water storage like we do in California, but you are billions of dollars and billions of tons of concrete short of doing something like that.
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  • Posted by HocusLocus 10 years, 2 months ago
    Required reading: Island by Thomas Perry
    http://www.amazon.com/Island-Thomas-Perr...

    All the basics involving the siting of a community in 'international' waters are covered from planning, first drop of landfill, maintaining sovereignty, attracting interesting people, dealing with nearby countries... right up to a hostile invasion! It's all here and is a surprisingly readable, riveting adventure.

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  • Posted by Temlakos 10 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I gather the nearest authority, above the mayor, is the government of New Zealand. Wouldn't New Zealand law govern in that case?
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  • Posted by $ jdg 10 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Indeed, if somebody were willing to throw a lot of money at the problem, they could build themselves a good sized artificial harbor. In fact, all they'd really need is a large floating dock (assuming some way to pull it onto shore during storms). The problem, of course, is that an island that can only support a few hundred people isn't worth the trouble.

    Every solution I can think of for a small island would work better for a floating seastead city.
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  • Posted by $ jdg 10 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Both Canada and Australia allow guns; in fact, Canada scrapped their handgun registration system after it turned out to cost more and do less than promised. I'm not sure about NZ.

    Certainly Britain does not try to control what "Commonwealth" countries do very closely, or Pakistan wouldn't still be a member.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The UK would gladly sell the Falklands to Argentina. Problem is the Falklanders are more British than the British.
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  • Posted by $ jdg 10 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If the UK was willing to send their navy and air force to Falklands to keep the Argentines out, they may well be willing to do the same here.
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  • Posted by davidmcnab 10 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That's hard to judge until/unless we see what *kind* of sentience artificially intelligent beings develop; emotionality versus intelligence; what kind of philosophies and convictions they subscribe to, what kind of aspirations they form.
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