Where I sit was under a mile of ice 13,000 years ago. the sea level was 260 odd feet lower and Mammoths roamed what is now under the sea. We are in a "interglacial warming period" which has thousands of years to go before the ice sheets return and grind Montreal and New York into glacial debris. I like climate change and hope for more soon. Increased energy means more life forms spread over more of the earth. Science is discovering that life forms which lived through the last interglacial cycle have genes adapted for warmth. When Darwin sailed across the Pacific he sailed over villages on submerged islands and saw climate change.

Anthropogenic climate change is questionable science but it is an excellent political tool. The politicians most powerful tool is fear and inducing fear of a global catastrophe provides considerable political leverage to those that seek to establish a world wide collectivist society. Whether or not climate change is a real threat is completely irrelevant. As a scientist I know that there is no such thing as "settled science". Newtonian gravitation theory and Einstein's relativity are firmly established as fundamental scientific principals but no scientist considers either of them as "settled". There are simply too many places where they don't work. If these powerful theories cannot be considered as settled how can anyone with a straight face claim that climate science is? Rule number one "Always be skeptical when a scientific 'finding' supports a political ideology".

So volcanic emissions have a cooling effect.
Well, la dee da. How about that?
Here in Alabama, the EPA recently closed down some plants that make electricity by burning coal.
What does the EPA want us to do?
Gag due to the EPA's man-made heat while jobless?
Oh, I forgot. I never believed in man-made global warming.
As for "climate change," I've heard of massive volcanic eruptions temporarily disrupting "the weather" and ruining crops due to clouds and cold for a year or two.
The climate (that does gradually change) generally snaps back to its current normal after the volcanic clouds clear.
I do believe that's history.

IMHO we have always had climate change. When I was a kid we called it weather.

I believe it was Will Rodgers that said, "Everyone is talking about the weather, but no one is doing anything about it!"

Now the progressives have figured out what to do with weather, TAX it.

We could control the warning and cooling of the earth. Simply set off volcanos when it gets too hot, and line the deserts with green backs to absorb the sunlight when it gets too cool. Or perhaps line some of our flat open (desert) spaces with flipable blinds, dark on one side, bright and reflective on the other. Could maybe even stick in a probe somewhere to control them. How's that for a science project Bill Nye?

California had better be thinking more about water instead of `Climate Change' right now. We up here in the Northwest do not have an abundance to pipeline down there because we don't collect all our rain. We too depend on snow melt. Our water problems are more about the people that decide when and how much to dump to prevent flooding if we get a big snowfall. This year they made the correct decision not to dump it.

I've learned not to try to argue facts or logic about anthropogenic induced climate change with a true believer. The following proposition does meet with at least silent shock:

Regardless of whether or not you believe that humans can actually change climate, let us assume that the nation decides to undertake a Manhattan style project to move to clean energy as fast as possible (this, of course, assumes the unending stream of agencies that make life miserable can be swept aside). The Earth's power supply currently comes 70% from carbon-based fuels, 20% from nuclear sources, 7% from hydroelectric, and 3% from "clean" sources (wind, solar, geothermal). An effort to accelerate the installation of clean energy will require the use of enormous amounts of energy for development, construction, transportation, installation, and distribution. Since most energy currently is supplied by carbon fuels, more of those fuels must be expended in the near term to meet this need. Efforts to reduce the use of carbon fuels will therefore make it impossible to move to clean fuels faster, and will actually slow any effort to increase those power sources.

Well now maybe Mr Obama will snap into action signing an executive order (by autopen from his golf cart of course) outlawing volcanos! And about time!

http://www.galtsgulchonline.com/posts/2c...

Bayesian analysis is somewhat controversial because the validity of the result depends on how valid the prior distribution is, and this cannot be assessed statistically.
Every global warming model, and analysis, I have been exposed to in personal research for not only myself but for college papers I have had to write over the past two years, indicates that Bayesian Analysis is the approach used to “prove” Man Caused Global Warming.
1st It is important to note that temperature measurements which include C02 have only been going on for the past 40 – 50 years depending on who you ask.
Next we have only been documenting temperatures for approximately 170 years.
Considering the earth is estimated at 4.5 billion years old, this is too small of a statistical sample to come to any conclusion, unless you use Bayesian Analysis.

Now to explain how this form of analysis works I will give a layman’s approach to this.

First is to formulate a theory.

Theory:
Water boils in 10 minutes.
Experiment 1:
Place 1 gallon of water in standard stainless steel pot.
Turn on burner, and time until water boils, when water boils look at your clock.
Result: 5 minutes.
Ignore Experiment, decrease heat on the burner, and time:
Result: 10 minutes.
Theory Proven.

Next someone says what if you use 5 gallons and a copper pot.

Theory:
Water boils in 10 minutes.
Experiment 2: Place 5 Gallons of water in copper pot on stove.
Turn on burner time and wait. Result 20 minutes.
Ignore result, increase heat to max and re-time.
Result Water boils in 10 minutes.
Theory proven.

So we now extrapolate:

Theory:
Water Boils in 10 minutes and our experimentation we document proves this beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Experiment 1, 1 gallon of water stainless steel pot burner on low, water boils in 10 minutes.
Experiment 2, 5 gallons of water copper pot burner on max, water boils in 10 minutes.

Theory proven...

THIS IS HOW GLOBAL WARMING SCIENCE WORKS!!!!

Human kind has historically and prehistorically done well when the earth warms a little. It's cooling that is hard to deal with. Until we have a meaningful distribution of average and standard deviations of the temperatures for a couple of thousand years, we don't know if today is aberrant of not. My guess is not, when you consider the Medieval warming period and the Mini-Ice Age.
In any event, humans will adapt, adjust and overcome.

maybe cbs has just thrown up their hands and is now admitting that gore was wrong, as are all the other people who have followed his lead. they are all lemming.

I think that the earth has heated and cooled for millions of years, all on its own for many factors, and the earth is so BIG that its just hard to believe that this warming trend (if its happening at all) is due to something that a carbon tax will fix.

There is an article about Nye in today's Washington Post. I thought it interesting that he was an engineer at Boeing and inspired by Steve Martin, started doing stand up comedy. This led to his position at PBS explaining simple science to children. The WP reported this with a straight face, praising him and Obama for using him as an authority.

Wow, there is high quality reference if ever there was one...although Obabam may actually be able to understand him....

Maybe so but Obama has Bill Nye, the science guy. So there!!!!

The NASA scientist they quoted is not the only NASA scientist who acknowledges that A = A. Remember that Rush Limbaugh's official climatologist is at NASA in Huntsville, AL.

After all the singing of "we are damned" it is amazing they allowed the NASA person to "ooops" it.

The only shocking thing about this is that CBS acknowledged that A = A.