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"And not long ago, the fact that college loan burdens were making savings and survival impossible? Maybe some of them figured out that loans are NOT the best way to save?
Thanks, ABC, for a no-win scenario.
Look, gang, if there's no GRAPH that shows both sides of the coin (pun intended) Versus Time... Versus GDP, years, average home price or Anything Else, you can never see if any of the disaster reporting is worth reading.
Thanks, ABC, for .... nothing much."
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Typically one draws out their cross border transfer in pesos (fees from 17.4 to 68.4 pesos starting in the banks - two that low - and ending with the local version of 7-11, hotels etc. then deposits in the local account. There is/are daily limits at both ends. Another way is a limited use of paper checks maximum ten per day at $10,000 per check US monday through Friday for the real ricos. (rich folks). i imagine the home accounts in the US are watched and checked for deposits or something provable in tax paid funds. For those of us who went from middle class to lower class upon retirement and then went south to regain middle class status it's an OK system. Other than Bank Americas sleezy approach to wiping out your balance one way or the other and lack of customer service. Best two are Wells Fargo and IF you are retired military or US Government Anderson Federal Credit Union or AFCUdotcommo I spelled some of it wrong some right which charges zero for funds sent to you in other countries. there may be others.the main thing is never use machines which swallow your card completely for the transaction. Takes four to six weeks to get a new one and in some countries even longer. See Eye Banco is my recommendation of choice.just south of the border. For the rest of the world due diligence is a mighty good idea. Take more than one card to be on the safe side and have a way to hook up and transfer funds if you lose one.
Now the last thing anyone presenting an electronic deduction to their accounts to Bank America will be honored and if you do'n't have sufficient funds they charge their account holder and then start adding huge weekly fees.
Completely untrustworthy.
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory...
In theory, all that extra saving can translate into borrowing in the "business/corporate world".
If the management is wrong in their assumptions or execution, yep... they can and do go down the tubes.
As for personal credit for 'immediate gratification,' yep, that's proven to be the downfall of many individuals who don't understand some basic concepts of money and savings.
So my wife and I use our points-collecting Visa cards for virtually all 'cash purchases,' which average $3000-5000 per month. And it's paid off automatically every month out of our checking account, which is a flow-through conduit for our IRA withdrawals and Social Security checks.
About sixty years ago, my mom drilled into my head the concept of "avoid all debt" and it's worked beautifully for me. And still, a home equity line of credit loan bought our newest car and we can afford the interest payments on the loan plus extra pay-down on principle.
Bank Savings?! Back some time in the 1950s or 1960s, mom moved all her cash out of our local NJ bank where it was earning about 1%/yr and sent it to a Southern California bank that paid about 2.5%. Buy Local, when it's to your own detriment?! Don't be silly!
Most folks born in the past 20-30 years have no concept of money, economics or savings.
oh, ps... When markets are distorted by Anything that makes a commodity too inexpensive, Demand grows higher than a balanced market would achieve.
Think about that when someone says that student loans for college have 'created unbearable debt' for the graduates. There IS a connection there for folks bright enough to see it, or have it taught to them by parents or educators.
I think of consumption in this context as taking that 18 month same-as-cash Home Depot credit card offer to install new hardwood floors when you already have $30k in credit card debt and no savings or easily liquefiable investments - not because you want to sell the house for a greater profit, but just because you "want" hardwood floors.
If I want hardwood floors just for the sake of having them, I'd have the cash, but still use the same-as-cash deal so that I could leave the cash invested for as long as possible and pay off the card before any interest accumulated.
I don't think consumer debt is bad in and of itself - in fact, I love to open credit cards with bonus cash-back offers ($300 back after the first $1000 charged), spend the money required to get the bonus cash (on things I would have bought anyway), pay off the cards & close the accounts. I made $2500 last year without paying a penny in interest doing exactly that (I didn't pay income taxes on it either).
Chase has a "Slate" card available that has no balance transfer fee and 0% for a period. I opened one of those, transferred the entire available balance to an Amex card with a 0 balance, requested the refund from Amex, invested the money, and paid off & closed the Chase card before the intro period was over. Effectively 0% interest to invest on margin.
I also keep an Amex that gives 3% back on all purchases from grocery stores & pay the balance every month.
These are all just tactics in my personal crusade against the financial institutions that want me to be trapped paying 21% interest because I don't produce enough to pay for what I consume.
Yes. Staggering and true.
"Spending on credit benefits those from whom you borrow the money"
Yes.
"The value of money is destroyed when you consume more than you produce because eventually you will go bankrupt and your debts will be passed on to more responsible consumers. "
Yes, if I understand correctly. If the borrowing continues at this rate, the gov't struggles to service the debt, and the national bank is tempted to expand the money supply and pay back the debt in post-inflation dollars. That has not happened yet, but it's a real risk. My guess is when rates rise, the gov't will put a band-aid on the problem with spending cuts and increased taxes that keep the budget balanced. The Fed will allow some inflation, but it won't allow inflation to spike too quickly or to exceed 8%. I find it frustrating we have to wait for such an unpleasant scenario to solve the problem.
Spending on credit benefits those from whom you borrow the money that you didn't produce in order to consume what you didn't produce, and also causes you to sacrifice a portion of your future productivity in future interest payments to the lender.
The value of money is destroyed when you consume more than you produce because eventually you will go bankrupt and your debts will be passed on to more responsible consumers.
What is the flaw in my reasoning?
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