Carson and Trump threaten to leave GOP

Posted by RickBulow1974 9 years, 4 months ago to Politics
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Hmm. Interesting


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  • Posted by freedomforall 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If it's that blended glop, I agree, it needs something to dilute it even more ;^)
    Single malt, I like pure. Sometimes chilled, but no other liquids.
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  • Posted by mia767ca 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    no..air force then airline pilot...retired now...knew Ayn Rand and Nat Branden personally...was at founding of Libertarian Party in Ft Collins in 1970...know story of CEO of BB&T...living on beach in south florida watching cruise ships go in and out..teach option trading online now...never voted repub or dem...always libertarian..got kicked out of Tea Party...too radical...lol
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That 's one excuse. I don't have to convince you have to convince yourself... Remember we make independent choices as free people. That's not allowed on the other side.

    Remember a vote is a one shot weapon. Two if you count primary and general. But it's versatile. In primary local races matter. especially in precincts. The current rules the partys are following are first fifteen states get free choice voting those that followi the primaries are winner take all. barring rules changes.

    You can register democrat and vote for the weakest candidates they have. You can do the same republican but they are hardly worth the effort. You still get to vote for the local stuff and support or nullify the individuals on an individual local basis. So can your friends... THEN you can stay registered that way or re-register as something else depending on how you want to use your vote and what or who is on the ballot. Along way you can create pockets of resistance. saying I'm a Dino I'm a Rino and answer polls saying I'm not supporting this or that candidate. Independents don't get to vote against Hillary in the primary.... do it as a group in your own precinct you create doubt do it in a number of precincts you create fear - why did our party numbers go up and the support for the candidate go down? They are then seen as weak.

    In the General you can vote against one and therefore for the other but that is a winner take all situation. So if you vote ...Trump for example or a write in and Hillary wins she gets the entire vote and can claim a mandate or a landslide on the electoral college level. Bush by the way had both but not in great numbers.


    In the General you can leave the presidential line blank don't vote for either depending on the state rules it may still go the winner take all column...

    Or you can not vote in the General election at all

    Or you can not register and not vote in anything including the primary. Which may keep you off the jury selection as well.

    The least two are where the under vote disparity comes in. Those eligible to vote who didn't vote Presidential and those who didn't register. That translates directly into a no confidence or a None Of the Above interpretation.. Must be useful I see the left is trying hard to get a mandatory with a fine voting requirement

    In a Presidential year it's 35% give or take...

    So the goal there is to use your register/not register ability and your vote or note vote ability to deny the winner take all perecentage.

    Consider with 30% not registering that's 70% divided by three less those not voting. Democrat and Republican are fairly close but no way with winner take all they are getting a majority much less a mandate or a landslide. Those figures are increasing in the non register non voting category.

    At near fifty percent in the off year the winner's actual vote is often less but since many of the states no longer keep records of splinter, write in or third party it has, intentionally, become harder to gauge. But it also becomes harder for any of those elected to claim they represent much more than a fraction in either case.

    That's the target information it's a target rich environment with all the candidates falling in that category. Fire your ballot iwhere it will do the most good - your choice your responsibility.

    If you want more than a one shot musket with two shots a year allowed talk to your friends in your own precinct. There are a 110,000 battlegrounds that way. 3143 counties and 50 States. Select your own targets method. If you don't have initiative or recall get it. If iyou have winner take all other than federal electoral get rid of it. Or demand the spnumber of registrants, registrants not voting, voting for other than two candidates using write in be counted and verified and published. Limiting general to top two primary vote getter's or any other limit banned. If your county clerk says it's too much trouble they work for you not the other way around. If they won't recall petitition or vote against them in the next election.

    If you don't have initiative or recall you are in one of the slave states. Think about it. Much easier at the local level and that includes None Of The Above with 50% of registered voters plus 1 two more good things to add.

    Lots of ways to shoot your ballots before it's time for a vowel change

    110,000 points of light are hard to put out even for those with billions. And each one costs the money, time and effort. That's my idea of working together and giving back. Attack the weak and weaken the strong.
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  • Posted by $ rainman0720 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If you can convince me that I'm wrong, please make your case. The only thing that my vote does is offset the vote of a moocher; there are more moochers than producers, so we can no longer win.

    Leftist supporter? Hardly. But there are far more of them than there are of us; it's a numbers game, and we don't have the numbers anymore.

    So it just seems pointless to worry about the inevitable.
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The electable alternatives are worse unfortunately. Would u rather have Hillary? She lies, hides her cronyism, and is another chameleon socialist. The other gop candidates don't have a prayer of defeating Hillary with her fake smile that hides the viciousness within
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    and across the table their counterparts in the DNC are smirking and saying, "Comrades here are your next marching orders."
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    John Allison I put up a thread based on finding people of his caliber instead of the Dorian Grey Republican and Democrat excrement we're wasting all this time discussing. Crap is crap.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    and your answer is eight more years of left wing socialism under another name? I got to say this.. If that's the attitude the country wasn't worth fighting for and the military ought to take over. Looking at the leavings and dregs you are suggesting is just looking at the other face of the left. No solution at all just despair and excrement and fear.A nation which deserves what it asks for was not worth fighting for....but then we didn't take our oath to the nation nor the people nor the government our oath was to the Constitution. That was worth defending. It's sad the rest of the country is so worthless.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Some of us did....some became tea partiers and still supported the Republicans, some just became disgusted...and many took counsel of their fears turned around put their heads in the sand and yelled BOHICA.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The party isn't worth taking one for or one half or any amount. The party is worth less than nothing.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There is no Republican Party. There is a label called Republicans In Name Only @ Enablers but added up it's just the right wing of the left. d

    As long as they support the idea of Government over Citizens they are left wing.

    Conservative is a worn out hackneyed meaningless term which in no way especially it's current PC definition fits the RINOs. Try using a real pre 1980 dictionary.

    Your second sentence however is a one point boost. And then there were six.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    who gives a.....expletive deleted.. about the Republicans In Name Only to use a more accurate name for the lapdogs of the left....
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 9 years, 4 months ago
    Not the way it's supposed to be but what does one expect from the status quo...we voted for em...so it's up to us the change that. (and watch out for cheating on both sides)
    The Naked Communist, circa 1958 predicted that they'd own Both parties eventually...could almost call em all demoncraps now...
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  • Posted by Flootus5 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Excellent question. That has me thinking. My tiny little gold company is original co-plaintiff with Elko County along with other Counties and now the Nevada AG as well. I have been working closely with the County Commission on this lawsuit that is in Reno Federal District Court currently. I helped the Commission write a letter of support to our tiny little company early last week. The letter summarizes the larger arguments in the lawsuit and then also how the feds gerrymandered the maps in the Final EIS to take our property. That letter has now gone to the BLM State Director and to the head of NDOW.

    That letter must be gotten into Ben Carson's hands. And I think the Commission can help. Thanks for getting my brain turned in that direction! I would +100 if I could!
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You are of course referring to the DNC who control the RINOS that's the whole point and when Trumpet boy or the RINOS comes sucking around for our votes kick him in the ass, laugh and walk away. or Say Seig Me No Heils Comrades I don't serve your party. eight years more so what? took them 100 years four major wars one major depression and the same thing getting ready to happen again regardless.

    Cease enabling
    Take Control
    Make Change
    and that includes enabling the moochers.
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