Interesting. I wouldn't have thought they were friendly from what I've read and heard. I went to a Judge Napolitano appearance a few years ago, and he said Adams pushed through the Alien and Sedition Act specifically to muzzle Jefferson.

there was a period where they did not, but for most there lives they were friends and exchanged letters until their deaths.

I don't think that Adams and Jefferson liked or respected each other much, actually. See, e.g, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_a...

An excerpt: James Thomson Callender, a Scottish citizen, had been expelled from Great Britain for his political writings. Living first in Philadelphia, then seeking refuge close in Virginia, he wrote a book entitled The Prospect Before Us (read and approved by Vice President Jefferson before publication) in which he called the Adams administration a "continual tempest of malignant passions" and the President a "repulsive pedant, a gross hypocrite and an unprincipled oppressor". Callender, already residing in Virginia and writing for the Richmond Examiner, was indicted in mid-1800 under the Sedition Act and convicted, fined $200 and sentenced to nine months in jail.

I figure Harrison Ford still loves his Indy hat, too.
Whoever gets the nod to run for the GOP with be co-opted and only trustworthy to the party's mostly hidden agenda. If Ted was running independent I'd consider him because of his stand on the constitution, but has he come out with a plan to save the Republic yet or is he still playing lets make a deal, too?

You may be right about that - calling out your own as liars will make the GOP send flowers to Trumps room every time, which is akin to courting the town round heel... As to the joking, I really hate it when my Captain Obvious hat covers my eyes.

I suspect this is why Madison was worried about factions forming.

The famous "handshake" contracts were not enforced with an enforcement mechanism. These agreements were well illlustrated in Atlas among the heros providing coal, steel, etc., to each other on a verbal handshake.

I wish there was one link, it would have made my research much easier. However, if you start with Wikipedia and Google, you will find links to everything I said and more.

The GOP and the dems are doing everything they can to stop Cruz. I think that is the biggest reason to like him. All the in power people do not seem to.

I would not be surprised if he had a deadly accident should he actually win a few primaries. I think it unlikely because the GOP turned up the support for trump to high levels of advertising.

If he has that much integrity, the GOP will never select him and let you vote for him.
(BTW, I was joking about hearing Ted;^)

FFA, I was quoting the question asked in the last sentence of the subject paragraph above, and then providing my answer to the question. Although, I have heard variations of that question come from Ted, as well as several folks that I have a gob of respect for, that are positive he is the only one able and willing to stand through the political and Constitutional s***storm that`s coming.

The whole world is involved in governments spying on their own citizens, so I guess we should drop that issue.

The whole world is involved in government-controlled education, so I guess we should drop that issue.

The whole world is involved in socialized medicine, so I guess we should drop that issue.

The whole world is involved in the “war on drugs”, so I guess we should drop that issue.

The whole world is involved in economic cronyism, so I guess we should drop that issue.

The whole world is involved in fighting “climate change,” so I guess we should drop that issue.

The fact that many of our founding fathers proclaimed liberty and human rights while owning slaves is not going to go away. Even if we were to drop the issue, our opponents most certainly won’t. Slavery was as wrong then as it is now, and many of the founding fathers recognized this fact even as others actively participated in the practice and gave moral cover to several succeeding generations of slaveholders. The effects of this moral contradiction are with us to this day.

These guys read the Greek classics, in which democracy was introduced, but slavery was allowed.
2. The whole world was involved in slavery at that time. It was introduced to America through a black who enslaved another black, and it was backed by the courts. In fact, the Africans and Arabs were the initiators and maintainers of that system until TODAY.
3. Slavery is a perverse incentive.

Now, let's drop the slavery issue. The first countries who outlawed slavery were England and the US. It's time to pillory the others who were involved. If you don't want to do that, then drop the whole thing. It's being used to denigrate the greatest political economy ever created, and even worse, it's making the ignorant turn from the one thing that will improve their lives.

Perverse incentives are amazingly strong for those who are shortsighted. If we'd had an industrial revolution in the time of Heron's engine, Star Trek wouldn't be fiction. Instead, people walked away from it, because they didn't want to give up their slaves. Just imagine all the progress that never made it to reality because of perverse incentives. It's sobering. It also tells you how much is lost by compromise with evil.

Where are the people like these of our generations?

They're, like Galt, hiding out, until they're needed.

Yes...we will...what government is doing is called Hegelian Dialectic and is only practiced by those in the kakistocracy.:
The worst and least qualified in society create a problem, get you to scream: JUST FIX IT and Wamo! the fix is in and it's just what they wanted in the beginning.

That is the problem in my opinion, government is making the problems, to ensure political power and gain, they have little to no interest in solving real problems anymore. Someday we the objectivists will have much to rebuild.

Hope exists -- given that above is true -- if we can, via the Article V convention, impose an amendment "sundowning " every law after a short, time-certain (e.g. 10 years at the federal level). Also, the COS is a chance to repeal the 16 & 17th amendments -- the vehicles of the rush of destruction.

I did read the post below, I'm just not sold on your argument and need further persuasion. Could you post a link to the debates you reference? They sound intriguing.

I didn't disagree. I merely pointed out the significant differences in enforcement mechanisms between now and then which substantially affect the "lawfulness" of the action taken. I'm not defending the action, merely noting that a contract without an enforcement mechanism is pretty pointless. One could argue caveat emptor - especially when dealing with politicians.

The format of elections and debates makes it very difficult to prove their abilities as statesmen and patriots. Makes it far tooo easy for the brainwashed sheep to be led to erroneous conclusions.

I think Franklin used to tie one on pretty often, too, but I suspect he started about 150 IQ points higher than the racist in chief.

Never heard Ted say that.

"Where are the people like these of our generations? " Ted Cruz.

The schools have been indoctrinating the young
people. Not only politically, but, I think, in the way
they have been teaching children to (mis)use their
minds. But one thing that could help is the growing
home-schooling movement. Notwithstanding that a
lot of parents are also doing it for religion's sake,
still there may be a lot more of teaching true
history of the United States, the Constitution,
and more rationality than is being taught in the
public school system.