Majority Views NSA Phone Tracking as Acceptable Anti-terror Tactic | Pew Research Center for the People and the Press

Posted by gwcalvert 11 years, 10 months ago to Politics
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This is just effing scary... 27% of Americans following NSA story very closely. 35% not following closely at all... Most Americans are okay with the government snooping into their private lives? WHY???


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  • Posted by BeyondTopSecret 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    True... But I don't think they've gotten quite far enough to decrypt HTTPS in promiscuous mode ("everything on the Internet") in real-time. Yet.

    The Nevada Data Center is supposed to eventually house the power to brute-force decrypt HTTPS en-masse (from, say a Tier 1 pipe - they should be able to do the same for AES-256, in the case of data-at-rest and file-level stuff). Until then, they could, of course, just store all raw network data from the NAPs (Network Access Points - straight from the biggest ISPs) until they get the clock cycles to retroactively plow through it all. I think real-time decryption of HTTPS at this point requires focusing on a specific site ("target") of interest.

    Of course, this would be an excellent site to target, if one's intent was to identify and track possible future subversives... ;-)
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  • Posted by Rocky_Road 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You'll know when I joke, if you hang around long enough.

    And if you think that Rand would let this Republic go to Hades, just to rebuke Beck being a Mormon, then you don't understand her political worldview. Rush, and Beck, are both self made successful 'producers', and offer the other side of the political debate.

    You left FOX out? Or were you saving them for another post....
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  • Posted by Rocky_Road 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Neither does Bill O'Reilly!

    Jay does it for the comedy, and Bill does it to make a sad point. And that point couldn't be any more telling as to why we are where we are.

    There was a point where the Founding Fathers debated as to limiting the vote to property owners. Their reasoning was sound, but fell prey to a more eclectic proposal. We are witnessing the result of that decision....

    I wonder if any Gulch proponents here could equate 'property ownership' to being a producer?

    I could.
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  • Posted by cseidman 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Reminds me of the old U of Texas basketball coach Abe Lemons. He asked a player, "What is it with you, son? Are you ignorant or apathetic?" The kid replied "Coach, I don't know and I don't care." That's the US public!
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  • Posted by cseidman 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I actually don't think you are kidding, and that's a shame. Limbaugh is a pretty slick radio comedian, but that's all he is. And Glenn Beck is religious fanatic. Ayn Rand would carve this guy up in a minute with his irrational apocalyptic, phony BS. He's no different from those old TV ministers like Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Bakker, etc., ("If you don't send money now, this ministry will end!") but they were at least entertaining.
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  • Posted by $ Susanne 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If only they would be brainwashed, er, "influenced" by this site... ;-) How's THAT for wishful thinking!
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  • Posted by Rocky_Road 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Talk radio may be the last standing bastion of political truth, but it takes some effort to turn the dial...an effort that 90% of the voters can't seem to muster up!

    Talk radio is the champion of our First amendment right, and Fox News is the cable's champion.
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  • Posted by BeyondTopSecret 11 years, 10 months ago
    Uh... Does anyone notice that the content of this web site, post-login, is UNENCRYPTED?! ("HTTPS://" and/or "golden padlock" doesn't appear on this web page) That means that the NSA is likely reading the entire of contents of this web site as I author this. Talk about profiling... *chuckles to self*
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  • Posted by BeyondTopSecret 11 years, 10 months ago
    We The People (as a whole) get the government we deserve. We are so tripping towards absolute tyranny... But we're too busy writing our "BFF's" on our i-Phones about the latest American Idol results, whilst listening to Pandora, to notice.
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  • Posted by $ Susanne 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I was listening to the radio about the recent "leaks" and it was amazing how the "government spokesman" was blatantly lying - and the interviewer was feeding the lie - on mic. It was about 60% factual based, 40% absolute fabrication geared to make you think the guy is a lone nut psycho degenerate dropout who shouldn't be allowed to hold a broom, let alone a security clearance...
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  • Posted by $ Susanne 11 years, 10 months ago
    Our federal and state govt's have been indoctrinating our children for 50+ years now... part of the reason the majority of "young" adults don't care, is they've been slowly and steadily converted to easily led sheeple... Ask them the reasons we fought WW2, and you will frequently get blank stares, as there's little difference between the type of government our forefathers fought and died to defeat and the ones running our country now...

    Another example - look at how the same subgroup of Americans view firearm ownership. Most either abhorr them or look at them as a scary talisman of power and awe, requiring numerous permissions of gov to even look upon, let alone touch. And to own?? Those who own a firearm are considered anti-social dangerous criminals...

    Shall I add that they've been fed the dot gov socialist mind-menu via broadcast since at least the 1970's, if not before. They know kids watch 6 hours of TV a day; why not use that 6 hours to make compliant subjects of the future... kind of like the programming in Brave New World...
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  • Posted by 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Maybe I just read more than the "average American". I want to know what is going on in the world around me. Evidently most Americans do not care as long as they are getting theirs from Uncle Sam. People would rather hear about the latest Amanda Bynes' twitter melt down than take control of their own fate.

    All of the information is out there and the masses are still oblivious to their fate. Apathy at its worst/best?
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  • Posted by 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    This is why both of my sons have been home schooled. I did not want them to be indoctrinated by the government and union-controlled school system.
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  • Posted by Rocky_Road 11 years, 10 months ago
    They are not getting anything close to the whole story, unless they are willing to take some effort to ferret out the truth.

    Anytime that you see an 'on the street' interview about political issues, you will be astounded as to how little the average person knows.

    These are the 'useful idiots' that this administration depends upon for their endorsement....
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