So it's time to really dislike hillary

The left is for Cruz so he wipes out trump, who they really hate

No matter which way Trump turns, people are on his case. But Hillary gets a get out of jail card

Other than a penchant to argue, what would attract a godist to the Gulch? I have noticed a few who were pounding the bible so much I thought they were joking. I guess not.

That's the problem with the "religion" organization of the discoveries, observations and discussions of bicameral (preconscious) man.
Those that teach/organize are bicamerally compartmentalized also even though they might be consciously integrated otherwise.

Another misunderstood phrase...it actually means, don't let it define you...lead with the undamaged side of you...(baring a grudge)
Dennis at Prager University has some really good video explanations of these things.
Sadly...most do not teach this stuff.

Religious good/facts of reality...just like Ayn's discussion of ethics?...same with Aristotle...like I said and have learned...it's not mystical, it's quantum physical. It's also...in one's rational self interest, to be good. That's what is being talked about...only in a nonconscious bicameral way.

Haters?...don't know about you but I have no physical animosity (a requirement of hate) toward trump...aside perhaps a slight tap upside the head in the hopes of a "reboot" Laughing

Yep, that scares me about him, too.
Then I look at the alternatives.
I just haven't encountered many, if any, "Principled, disciplined, accountable and appreciative bible readers" in my life.
I think too many people claim or assume that bible-reading automatically implies or enables the rest of the list to be characteristic(s) of the 'readers.'
I've encountered only two or three 'bible readers' who I actually felt were "holy persons" with those other characteristics, but my belief is that those were their characteristics long before they connected with any bible.
imnsho... :)

Bad Assumption... Many are libertarians or conservatives, and religious feelings run broad and deep.
I've been taken behind the woodshed here many times by 'believers.'
Your mileage may vary. Closed course; professional thinkers only!
:D

To the extent " religious good" is practical and works in everyday life, its probably closely aligned with the facts of reality. The problem comes in when its impractical, like "turn the other cheek"

If the haters succeed in denouncing Trump, I will consider Cruz OR just give up and not vote at all

exactly. stay out of the public eye and limit interactions with politically sensitive people- like children and women that you dont know.

Truthfully...my observation is that perhaps trump only engages the conscious level meme of do what ever you have to... to succeed - moral or immoral...makes no difference...that is a crony political attitude and sadly a business attitude for most...as I said, no principles...we cannot have a federal republic with out principles.

In other words...I don't think trump is that smart...outside of business ideas, he is compartmentalized and cannot engage his mind.
otherwise he would of studied the constitution and had been talking more about making government smaller.
He has been part of the system we need to abolish.
That's my take, my observation over the years regarding trump.

Principled, disciplined, accountable and appreciative bible readers are the best people to trust...even if it was a pagan bicameral fear of consequences that drives them to be good and fair.
That is not the case with Ted...I have followed his career for years now.

My displeasure with "religion" is much like yours...except I always knew there was some value there but was confounded with mysticism.
That's why, as a small part of my work and perhaps the most important, is to unconfound it, demystify it and get at the quantum physical conscious truth of it.
Keep in mind that even the OT, T and the NT are still all expressed in pre-conscious (bicameral) language. That's what I learned from the work of Julian Jaynes: The breakdown of the bicameral mind.

I can't find fault with your goals or opinions, but "cultures change" and what we're seeing today IS voter dissatisfaction with crony politicians and what they've done to the country, not For the country.
When Trump first tossed his hat in, I concluded that his 'strange' style would be VERY appealing to what I thought was a vast majority of voters fed up with what Politicians have done to the country for scores of years.
I think I was right back then and still am.
Yes, Trump could be a Very Scary President in his own ways... I strongly disagree with some of his views on trade, economics, and religion, but I also believe that the higher risk to the US is to continue down the socialist death-spiral with Bernie OR Hillary.
Problem for me still is: I'm an Atheist, and I don't see ANY of the (R) candidates being anything less than bible-thumpers at heart. I want a Critical Thinker in the WH, not someone who turns to their preacher, minister, pastor or bible for "The Answers."

Thank you. I need every vote. I assume all at the Gulch are atheists---but that is on the assumption all are Objectivists. Therein may lie my mistake.

Cause it's not a direct connection...it's not personal in that sense...like I said, our connection is with the ether via our consciousness...it's not some guy in the sky.
good/evil is order/disorder

OK I want to vote for ADAM!

He taps into anger like hitler did...dangerous.

We need the G to adhere to the constitution and we need a person with strict constitutional principles...we let the FG get away with too much crap.
I understand the anger but it's not the American way to do it.

Yep, probably minus votes from the local religionists, but I gave you back a +1 since I'm an atheist.
https://youtu.be/eE6ica0t95Q really is a Good Clip!