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Date the Atlas, Not the Shrug

Posted by DrEdwardHudgins 9 years, 3 months ago to Culture
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The Atlas Society's CEO Jennifer Grossman formulates a new approach to dating and applies the principles of Ayn Rand’s libertarian philosophy to women’s most common relationship challenges.

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  • Posted by Mamaemma 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Michael, hold on, cause I may sound old fashioned here. The most important to me is that I feel admiration for my man, admiration for his achievements, for his intellect, his ability and strength, his wisdom. I want to be able to look up to him. Remember when Rand talked about Dagny's desire to see another person's achievement, not just her own?
    Honestly, that encompasses it all, that admiration. Everything stems from that.
    But no matter how much I admired him, I could not be drawn sexually to an unattractive man.
    Whoa- is that enough?
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Jsut to educate the male mind what other attributes to you count as high on the list and which need not be present?

    I'm willing to bet the lists from male and female are fairly balanced igualmente.
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  • Posted by Mamaemma 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    My proudest achievement in my life is being my husband's wife. I think you and I are saying the same thing,jbrenner.
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  • Posted by Mamaemma 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Rich, in my view Objectivism is all about "normal human emotions".
    As I was reading the article, I thought that when I "trust my gut", I am paying attention to my reasoning mind, which is leading me to be attracted to, or not attracted to someone. Good looks are essential, but far from enough.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Susanne etc are not only wimmens....If you had to write factualy about the majority mainstream of American USA women could you get beyond 'dig the cute butt' and other air head comments. not to mention there in house support unit.Well huh it's like duuuuuhhhh really? That would take very sharply honed writing skills.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    change that to 'featuring lead characters of feminist character and strength. the other way doesn't work unless you pointedly exclude the NOW at least to the point they excluded themselves.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 3 months ago
    "Ayn Rand, he rejected on on feminist grounds."
    I know I've only read 2.5 books of hers, BUT I'd like to hear the feminist grounds. I find it the books I read strongly feminist.
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  • Posted by tkstone 9 years, 3 months ago
    All my children have married well and I could not be prouder, but I am going to file this away to share with my grandkids when they are old enough. Spot on.
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  • Posted by richrobinson 9 years, 3 months ago
    It brings up a question I have about Objectivism. How do you incorporate normal human emotions? I get what Jennifer is saying but is it practical? Can we always explain why we are attracted to someone? In Atlas Shrugged, Francisco, Reardon and Galt all seemed to be men that many women would find physically attractive. Galt appealed to something more in Dagny and was her "ideal". What if Galt were ugly? In a real world situation would she have still fallen for him? Why are only men responding to this post?
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  • Posted by freedomforall 9 years, 3 months ago
    If followed widely that should eliminate the "population explosion" (assuming that not "dating" also precludes sexual activities.)
    However rational this approach may be, it is not likely except among 'objectivists' and it is more likely to reduce the 'production' of objectivists in the general population.
    (Could be a boon for the business of prostitution, too.)
    Kudos to the author nonetheless.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    In any given population of any great size the chances of not finding 'someone' is next to nil. In The US it's six to a dozen per lifetime
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 3 months ago
    In the words of Tom Springfield of the Seekers,
    "I could search the whole world over
    Until my life is through
    But I know I'll never find another you."
    When you can say that about your life partner, you have found the right one. My wife is such a person.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 3 months ago
    Ms. Grossman's rules for dating should seem obvious, but amazingly, they are not obvious to a large percentage of the population.

    Love is a willful choice. I do not wish to associate with people who say love is blind. Such people do not use their heads.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 3 months ago
    What a powerful piece of writing. Immediate recognition is the side benefit. Switch all references to women and men to the opposite sex and it works equally well.No doubt why JG was selected as CEO.

    JG congratulations.
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