Did Bush Lie About Iraq?...

Posted by $ Olduglycarl 9 years ago to History
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The answer is No...this is a good reflection on why he didn't lie.


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  • Posted by Dobrien 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Exactly, he had so much time to hide everything that none were found, should be no surprise.
    The more important point is who pushed us into
    that war with no end planned, when all we ultimately did was create instability and more hatred of the US.
    I know it was the weapons dealers.
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  • Posted by Esceptico 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    I agree. Enough has now come out about Bush and the establishment wanting to invade Iraq from years before 9/11 and 9/11 gave them the opportunity. Bush sure as hell knew what he was doing.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    My life does not depend on my vote. My honor and integrity does depend on exactly that. Any vote for Clinton, Sanders, or Trump would destroy any morals, values, standards, honesty, integrity, and claim to being a redponsible citizen and therefore any vote from me would be cast to destroy everything the three of them are...and support the USA not the USSA.
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  • Posted by Esceptico 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Perhaps, but at the highest time of when we imported oil from the mideast, it was about 15% of consumption. This could easily been either purchased elsewhere or consumption adjusted to the reduced supply --- it would have a whole lot cheaper over all than the war was and still is. Only the Alliance for War and Empire could justify an invasion.
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  • Posted by roneida 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Michael Aarethun....Amen.. Don't forget to vote and vote as though your life depends on it for it soon will. regards, roneida
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  • Posted by roneida 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Uglyoldcarl...Well written and thought out..You've been reading my mail...sadly for America, our type of thinking is now politically incorrect and we must not speak evil of the evil for fear of hurting their feelings and making them commit atrocities. I trust no countries to the east of central and South America. Don't forget to vote. roneida
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  • Posted by roneida 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Esceptico...Per haps you are correct. Many believe the US should not look beyond our own borders except for Great Britain. I do not know. we probably got involved in Kuwait over the loss of oil supply.. I think tiny Kuwait is a major producer. All of the western countries, especially US and GB, made serious mistakes in the mid east after winning WWII, but if we had not, all the major oil reserves in the world would now belong to Russia or China.. we should have stayed out of there and continued with coal fired ships and trains and forgotten airplanes.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    So it means you are gullible. There were in fact WMD present. No one important gives a damn about leftist hair splitting after the fact politcially driven definitions based on socialist fascist dogma.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years ago
    Does it matter? Probably not and highly likely it's a spin on what is a lie and what is the truth by the left which for certain sure is not known for it's allegiance to anything factual or truthful. To the point it's almost an accolade to be called a liar by the left since one automatically assumes they are being, as usual, deceitful. By the standards of any decent member of society. Stupid is as stupid does and scum grows where it breeds the best. But stupid scum is at best a joke. Which describes those who take it seriously.
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  • Posted by $ 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Saudi Arabia is referred to as funding terror in the 9/11 report...all the way back to Lockerbie.
    I don't know if that's true or not.

    But what I do know about history is:
    Muslims, islam "Hated" America from 'our' day one, ( we had never had contact with these pagan barbarians)...after paying them ransom for years until Jefferson became president he; created a Navy and kicked their butts..."The Halls of Montezuma" ring any bells.
    In fact, the quran, islsm and muslims (except those that do not buy into it hook line and sinker) have it in for everyone...including themselves.
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  • Posted by Esceptico 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Why is that part of the US business? I don't think we should have been involved in the first place. Not our fight.
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  • Posted by roneida 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    freedom for all...you are right..Bush was lied to by the CIA and director Tenet who should have been fired, jailed and turned over to ISIS....Presidents have to trust many advisors and when those advisors lie, they must be disposed of as any garbage. no excuses.
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  • Posted by roneida 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    So you believe that there was no hatred against the US until Pres. Bush retaliated for 9 1 1..??? What in hell prompted 9 1 1/ Bad manners. insults?? Just guys having fun??

    If you know of such "evidence implicating Saudi Arabia, for God's sake get it to Obama so he can deal with it firmly and efficiently as he and Kerry always do.Look how safe we are now that they took all nuclear capabilities from Iran for ever.
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  • Posted by $ sjatkins 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Combined with the historical facts of the times it is all the proof you need if you are silly enough to attempt to prove a negative. The burden of proof is on those that assert the positive. They failed to do so so it was not so. Case closed.
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  • Posted by $ sjatkins 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    After Desert Storm we and the British were doing continual overflights of Iraq and destroying factories we at all distrusted. They could barely get so much as pharmceuticals in the country dependably. Saying they ahd WMD that could possibly be a threat to the US was a quite ridiculous and very bad joke.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 9 years ago
    The most telling aftermath of the collapse of Iraq was an interview with Saddam's former nuclear weapons research specialist. After centrifuge components were found in his back yard, he was asked what had Saddam planned. He explained that the plan was to hide all of the components of the various WMD research projects until the UN finished its inspections, then pull them out and continue WMD development.

    Part of what fooled the CIA was a very convincing psyops effort by Saddam to convince Iran (his primary adversary) that his WMD programs were very much active. Saddam was an expert at Middle East intrigue, and used every element of deception to keep his enemies at bay. Unfortunately, he was too convincing, which led to disaster for Iraq.

    The mistake in the aftermath was to disband the entire Iraq military, on the grounds that there were too many Baathists in the ranks. Since the military was the backbone of the power structure, that left little to rebuild a new government. They should have followed Patton's model, which used many former Nazis to rebuild Germany, because they had the knowledge.
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  • Posted by $ sjatkins 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Doing "something" if it is a wrong and irrelevant something is much worse than doing nothing. What he did created much more incentive toward desperate actions including terrorism. And he blew a couple of trillion$ pounding sand. There was zero evidence Iraq had anything to do with 911. There was and is plenty of evidence implicating Saudi Arabia.
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  • Posted by $ sjatkins 9 years ago
    Yes. For that matter his dad lied to build up support for Desert Storm. It is very common for politicians to lie in support of wars and other military aggression. Anyone aware of conditions in Iraq especially after Desert Storm knew the purported threats of an attack against the US mainland were hogwash. Anyone that understands anything about the nuclear industry knew that yellow cake is proof of nothing. Before the invasion I predicted > 100,000 Iraqi civilian deaths. I was off by an order of magnitude underestimation. I am very ashamed of this episode in US history.
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  • Posted by roneida 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    When Iraq started the first Gulf war by invading Kuwait??, Saudi Arabia allowed Pres. Bush Sr. to move our troops through Saudi Arabia to drive the Iraquis out if he promised not to cross the border of Iraq with our troops. When our troops reached the border, Bush Sr. called a hal;t as he agreed and the war was over in a month or so. Pres. George Bush, could hardly attack Saudi Arabia after that act of trust, especially when our CIA under George Tenet lied to him about WMD's being in Iraq. There was no proof that the Saudi government had any hand in 911 even though the Bush haters want it to be true,
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  • Posted by Esceptico 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    I guess part of discussion has to be the definition of the WMD and the other part is upon the evidence available. Why did Cheny say what he dif if there were such WMD? My answer is he got caught in the fact there were none. Also, at this point, who cares? It is time to get all the establishment people gone and start a fresh batch in the US
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  • Posted by $ 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    isis found them up north and some of Saddam's stash was in Syria...reason tells you that if he used them on his people then he had them and they certainly existed.
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  • Posted by Esceptico 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    19 of 20 terrorists were from Saudi Arabia. That was the source, but where did Bush attack? Iraq. The plans to invade Iraq preceded 9/11 by years, and 9/11 provided exactly the excuse to attack. The Alliance for War and Empire loved it.
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