Legends say China began in a great flood. Scientists just found evidence that the flood was real.

Posted by $ nickursis 8 years, 8 months ago to Science
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Interesting. Tales of floods are universal, but after listening to Magicians of the Gods, and the discussion of the Younger DRyas period and the cuase of it being aa cometary impact at 12.6 BC and another that ended it at 9.6 through global warming caused by ocean impacts and the resulting water vapor http://clouds.It shows that a lot of the tales told around the world as "myth" usually end up as having a basis in fact.


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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 8 months ago
    We are finding a lot of these events line up with frightening tales and miracles in our biblical history.
    However, the new thinking as to what caused the sudden melting of ice sheet creating a world wide flood was probably extreme cosmic radiation causing atmospheric rivers to pour down for days. It's likely our shields were low, maybe even worse than today. The other theory is the intrusion of Venus into our system, causing an electromagnetic discharge between the plants. Test were done demonstrating the effects...it matches the Egyptian pictographs of a ball with a red glow looking like the devil.
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  • Posted by JohnConnor352 8 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Well I do get the sentiment, and it is a good point, I wouldn't call this type of information "confirming" religious myths. It would be entirely accurate to state that this information can indicate that these religious stories are not 100% pure fantasy, like Lord of the Rings, but that is a far cry from actual confirmation. There is far more to the fantastical and physically impossible Noah's Ark story than simply "large portions of what is currently land were at water under one point."
    Also, many cultures having a similar mythology is not, as some have suggested, evidence of the validity of such mythologies. It could simply be from cross-cultural communication, or perhaps anthropological evidence of a common human ancestry with persistent traits to their folklore.
    In the end, the fact still remains that there is no evidence to suggest that our entire planet was one submerged entirely under rainwater, and that it is entirely impossible to fit to every single species in the world onto a single floating vessel... Or at least any yet constructed by man.
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  • Posted by JohnConnor352 8 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Well I do get the sentiment, and it is a good point, I wouldn't call this type of information "confirming" religious myths. It would be entirely accurate to state that this information can indicate that these religious stories are not 100% pure fantasy, like Lord of the Rings, but that is a far cry from actual confirmation. There is far more to the fantastical and physically impossible Noah's Ark story than simply "large portions of what is currently land were at water under one point."
    Also, many cultures having a similar mythology is not, as some have suggested, evidence of the validity of such mythologies. It could simply be from cross-cultural communication, or perhaps anthropological evidence of a common human ancestry with persistent traits to their folklore.
    In the end, the fact still remains that there is no evidence to suggest that our entire planet was one submerged entirely under rainwater, and that it is entirely impossible to fit to every single species in the world onto a single floating vessel... Or at least any yet constructed by man.
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  • Posted by JohnConnor352 8 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Well I do get the sentiment, and it is a good point, I wouldn't call this type of information "confirming" religious myths. It would be entirely accurate to state that this information can indicate that these religious stories are not 100% pure fantasy, like Lord of the Rings, but that is a far cry from actual confirmation. There is far more to the fantastical and physically impossible Noah's Ark story than simply "large portions of what is currently land were at water under one point."
    Also, many cultures having a similar mythology is not, as some have suggested, evidence of the validity of such mythologies. It could simply be from cross-cultural communication, or perhaps anthropological evidence of a common human ancestry with persistent traits to their folklore.
    In the end, the fact still remains that there is no evidence to suggest that our entire planet was one submerged entirely under rainwater, and that it is entirely impossible to fit to every single species in the world onto a single floating vessel... Or at least any yet constructed by man.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 8 years, 8 months ago
    In digging into the physics of global warming, I found that NO models predict the warming we have without the effect of water vapor. Water is the biggest contributor to the behavior, and no one is coming clean with this information.

    I can't believe how hard it was to find this. I also can't believe in digging this out, that there (I can't find it now) is simple undergraduate calculations for the steady-state temperature based on the atmosphere constituents. It under predicts the temperature a bit, and second-order effects are responsible for differences. This simple model tells you right away that CO2 is not the fundamental, first-order cause.

    Any one else know where to put their hands on this calculations? I think I found it in a round about way on the University of Arizona's site. Not surprised it is obscured now.
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  • Posted by Bethesda-gal 8 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Maybe because most, if not all people in this forum have sufficiently robust intellectual curiousity to be fascinated by scientific proof being found that confirms ancient myths and religious stories.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 8 months ago
    Years ago the History Channel or somewhere I watched a whole hour devoted to how an evaporated Mediterranean Sea became reformed by a Gibraltar area breech flooding courtesy of the Atlantic Ocean.
    To be shown here, I just found a preferable silent short animation that displays how both the Mediterranean and the Black Sea were formed by breech flooding.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xQeE...
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  • Posted by JohnConnor352 8 years, 8 months ago
    Why are we discussing biblical-ish mythology? Strange topic choice. I think WND Faith would have been a more apropos forum.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The thing that convinced me about "myth as fact" is the Northwest Native American myth of the bird flying from the ocean and wiping out all the life on the coasts of California, Oregon, Washington and Canada, that was dismissed as folklore. Until the Cascadia subduction zone was found to be the cause of megaquakes, and huge tidal waves proven by the Japanese "orphan Tsunami" records. I now believe every myth has a basis in fact, with the Ark story being one that appears in several versions, with several different "Noahs", depending on the country.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That is true, using some prognostication to enforce behavhior is typical control BS. The interesting part is the fact is is now an immutable fact that the Younger Dryas was caused by multiple impacts of a comet like object across the North American Ice sheet, as well as into Europe and the middle east. The nano diamonds and dust are incontrovertible proof, and have been found across a large area. The Epic seems to be a codified version of it. It also explains the Columbia gorge and scablands of Oregon and Washington, as well as the stories of the "darkness and black rain" and "fire from the sky" that is prevalent throughout most myths across many nations. The ending assault seems to have evidence to support it, as ocean impacts are the only good model to expalin an 8 degree C rise in 10 years that have been proven in the Greenland Ice samples, and they also would produce catastrophic tidal waves that would have scoured the coasts for hundreds of miles inland.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 8 years, 8 months ago
    There is a flood myth in the oldest story known to humankind: the Epic of Gilgamesh
    I think this notion of a great catastrophe wiping out decadence leaving behind the righteous is an innate human predilection that should be resisted.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 8 years, 8 months ago
    I agree , over and over stories around the world are passed down from past generations usually dismissed as myth. With enough evidence the experts begrudgingly admit that the tales are a rich source of information.
    Glad you were able to explore the past with Graham Hancock. He has made a very compelling case for an ancient forgotten civilization.
    Plus no gradualism in the scablands.
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