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Atlas Shrugged a Requiem?

Posted by rbroberg 8 years, 7 months ago to Politics
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One of the most interesting points discussed in Objectivist circles is, of course, the prediction of how the current USA compares to that depicted in the novel. The question that arises quite consistently is how far the US can slide into the Peoples' State before the dramatic end to that system. I have heard predictions from others, some of whom never read AS, that we are slated for a financial crash, an oil drought, a terror attack, martial law, etc. How true or likely is this claim? And can we, as educated Objectivists, lend insight to when or how this could occur?


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  • Posted by gcarl615 8 years, 6 months ago
    When ever I hear this question posed, I always think of the saying "I'm dancing as fast as I can". I think that is exactly what our government is doing now. Dancing just as fast as they can to delay the inevitable, if even only by one day. Their lives depend on it.
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  • Posted by Eyecu2 8 years, 7 months ago
    While I do not believe that it will come to the appolcaliptic position of the book. I certainly believe that it is nearing a major turning point.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 7 months ago
    It is my opinion that we are, unfortunately, halfway down the wrong side of the bell curve.
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  • Posted by JuliBMe 8 years, 7 months ago
    To me, as a lover of our Exceptional Nation, I still hold out hope that we, as a people, will turn it around. There has never been a nation like this one founded on the natural right of Individual Liberty. So, it stands to reason that somehow we will be able to avoid the complete destruction depicted in Atlas Shrugged. Ayn Rand's warnings years ago have been disseminated the world over. Surely, since only 10% of the population participated in the American Revolution, there's enough people who will stop this beautiful country's complete slide under a criminal government's thumb?
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  • Posted by dwlievert 8 years, 7 months ago
    Time and wisdom has informed my thoughts on such things. Had I been alive in the thirties, possessing the perspective that I had gleaned from reading Rand's profound and seminal novel (impossible of course), as well as other of her works, I would have concluded, "this is it! It's over"........

    Of course, as history has unfolded, that would have thus far been an expression of ignorance rather than wisdom - a dropping of context while claiming the embrace of same.

    Baring nuclear exchange, the ideas that gave birth to our beloved America, continuing in their obscene destruction, will precipitate the endless injustices associated with our suicide.

    However, human nature and our ability to take advantage of it, individually and collectively, will continue to make the rot as "slow" as possible. That "slowness" after all, is what Galt hastened.........

    Will there be a sudden economic collapse that precipitates any or all of the dire consequences cited by others who understand the folly underway? Perhaps. On the other hand and contrary to views of many, those who now wield unprecedented political power know perfectly well what is underway. They will continue to do whatever is necessary to prevent such a sudden disaster.

    However, no one can control what will, at some point, become uncontrollable.

    Meanwhile, each of us should live our lives to the fullest, as we try to teach our progeny while setting examples for our fellow citizens. Examples that demonstrate REALITY - in its most naked and "innocent" of lights.

    To my fellow Objectivists: Lead with your life not just with your mouth. If a picture is worth a thousand words, an example is worth ten thousand.

    Never give up to such an obscene and impotent foe - i.e., as Roark replied to Toohey, "but I don't think of you Ellsworth."

    Dave
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 7 months ago
    I'm beginning to think that waiting for the coming collapse is like the impending second coming. Even though all the signs are there and more and more everyday...no one knows for sure. The fact that it hasn't already is bewildering, it's a mystery...Or...maybe that's what they want us to think...?
    There you go...full circle and still no definitive answer.

    Maybe...just maybe...it'll collapse when "We" stop adapting, when "We" give up...it'll collapse when "We" collapse...Maybe? Just a thought.
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  • Posted by Blanco 8 years, 7 months ago
    I have absolutely no doubt that America and the world will experience economic depression within a decade. However, there are simply too many variables to make any prediction more precise than that. Whether good things will come out of the chaos or just more bad things, again it is impossible to accurately surmise.
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  • Posted by Bbrigham 8 years, 7 months ago
    Remarkable how prophetic Ayn was, including Wyatt discovering how to get oil from shale. The collusion of private interests with government, as Ayn warned us, is creating compounding distortions that in my view will inevitably lead to extremely volatile corrections, that will be blamed by the perpetrators in government on capitalism to justify ever more intervention. The Fed's manipulation of markets is unsustainable and I believe disastrous, possibly as early as 2017.
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  • Posted by mminnick 8 years, 7 months ago
    Read "1984" and compare it to how the Deocrat/Progressive wing (read as all) of the Democrat party is doing and moving. They change history at the drop of a hat, remake entire scenario and then lie about it to one and all. Given the progressive control of secondary and college education, the growing minority and soon to be majority of people will have been educated (brain washeda0 into the progreswsive way of thinking and acting. Once that tippinmg point is reached, it's all over.
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  • Posted by edweaver 8 years, 7 months ago
    Only time will tell. When it happens we will know and until then we can only prepare for whatever happens. My 2 cents.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 8 years, 7 months ago
    Great, common question. I am guessing we'll either have a terrorist attach and/or biological scare (like a bird flu) that will trigger martial law. This, of course, will all just be theater and manipulation. I think it comes down to how ready the public is to accepting martial law. Frankly...I think they're damned close now.

    Hillary will be our next President. There's your answer...
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