Reality sucks. Fossil fuels supply over 70% of the world's power, with nuclear and hydroelectric providing another 27%. That means that solar, wind, and geothermal provide only 3%.

In order to accelerate the conversion to clean power sources, we need to increase the use of the fossil fuels necessary to manufacture, transport, and install the clean power infrastructure over the short term. Forcing a cutback in fossil fuel use is counterproductive, delaying the growth of clean energy infrastructure.

From a scientific standpoint there is no question about the main cause of climate change and, for that matter, our weather: It's the sun.

She gives the lie to those who deny the agenda of enforced scarcity. But she also contradicts herself. An 1899 economy would put out more CO2 per capita than the present one. That suggests she really wants to execute a bunch of people.

Fixing the so-called problem has never been the goal. Subjugating people to outright slavery with them as the master is the goal.

I guess she expects us to ride our unicorns to work and sprinkle a little pixie dust on ourselves to fly to our vacation spots.

civil war or storming of the bastille?
regardless you are correct!!!!!

The civil war that she's trying to start is already happening. It just doesn't look like any war ever fought before. Colorado and the State of Washington have fired the first rounds when they nullified federal drug laws and suffered no consequences.

The next nullification will probably be the "clean power" nonsense. No governor is going to allow the EPA to cause rolling blackouts in his state by shutting down power plants.

Then, it just might be one of the oil producing states that regulates drilling activity and ignore the EPAs nonsense.

Atlas Shrugged was supposed to be a warning, Not A Newspaper!

That's all I needed to hear. Out goes that dirty natural gas heater. Guess I'll go shopping for a coal fired furnace and a wood burning stove. I want to be green.

Start with this....Co2 is NOT a pollutant yet even our supreme court ruled that the EPA can regulate it. Why? Co2 is FOOD for plants. Nothing more. We EXHALE it. IT IS NECESSARY FOR SURVIVAL and a minimal part of our atmosphere. What do you REALLY think is the endgame in calling OUR EXHALATIONS a pollutant? All you need to do is understand who is saying that "climate change" (WAT???? The weather and climate change EVERY DAY!!!!) is a problem and look at their agenda to know it is a SCAM from top to bottom. The scary part is that the kids in this country (and some of YOU HERE, TOO?????) have fallen for the scam hook, line, and sinker.

1899? Cool! I'm going to go out, light a couple of my whale oil lanterns, fire up the old coal forge, make up a couple steel blooms, and pound out some parts for my hot tube ignition coal oil buggy motor. Woohoo!!! After that, I'll go check on my herd of draft horses, then set on the porch a (while those 9 year old laborers I hired for 3 cents an hour make up some more stuff for me to sell on my forge), light up the ol' terbaccy pipe, and have me a double Laudinum and Coke (heavy on the Coke part), and revel in the modern era of the approaching 20th century... when things will be even better!

So this the new McCarthyism?

At least the old one was based on facts (see Venona), not pseudoscience. As an actual scientist not paid to "believe", I should know.

The argument goes like this. Science says global warming is real. Science is not wrong. Global warming must be stopped. Capitalism is to blame for the excess. Socialist controlled economies work better to regulate these things.

The argument goes like this. Science says Aryan blood is real. Science is not wrong. Aryan decline must be stopped. Jews are to blame for the decline of German civilization. National socialism will restore the "Ubermensch" to his lofty throne.

Naomi Klein is confused about what future she wants.

McCarthy and sensational fear mongering. Like peas and carrots...

Now that statement, is immutable truth.

All you say is true, however,you cannot use any real logic tree or cause and effect because there are no "real facts". Every aspect of the discussion is tainted by those who will manipulate the facts to suit their views. If we could have a database of just data that is untainted (I know there are supposed databases it's just that every owner of them has been cited as tainting them their way), it might be a different story. So, I agree with your point, there is NO proven, direct, causual connection between the "issue" and their "fixes". Other than where the money goes.

So, they should not be imposing their fixes on everyone, and instead, allow private industry to fix it. Have a Kickstarter and let the people so damn worried about it contribute to fund the fixes. They miss the point of what are the real sources and causes. The Amazon and China are the 2 biggest contributors. Neither is addressed by these goober heads. They just want us to do whatever they want, and the record of government in "fixing things" is so poor, they are disqualified from trying. Need another contractor.

Again, Freedom, I wouldn't go for either position at this point, as there is a huge mound of data both sides have used, meaning that one or the other, or both are manipulating, sorting, sifting or filtering, for their own facts. I am not sure there are any sources of "true data" anymore. I do know that their BS imposition of rules, taxes and looting is only because they want that and they have a convenient excuse no one can prove. If they were serious, they would be addressing real causes, like Brazil and the Rain Forest, which no one ever mentions, yet is restored, may solve their whole problem. Or let private industry produce the tools to address it with technology.

OK so: "People have to start living a life that's commensurate with reductions in greenhouse gases," Ok, this is where we get derailed of the tracks. And CG loses points...yet I don't think he is too far off the road as this woman appears to be, it is what the whole group of people arguing about this misses. Folks, there is some changes to the environment going on. That is a scientific fact. What is causing the changes is where it all goes wrong. There is no conclusive evidence of any particular cause being the ONE. There have been changes to the environment for as long as there has been an environment, because it is not constant, it is a system with several parts to it, any change in one sends perturbations into the others. The simple minded folks telling us "It's your fault" and "Now you must do this and this" and then manipulate it all so they make money off it, are the problem. Like this baboon.
First off, there are technologies to remove carbon, there are natural ways to reduce carbon, and there are technological replacements for the HFC;s she was complaining about. That doesn't mean that we go back tot he dark ages (because, oh by the way, the idiots never mention the fact that the "poor people" in the world today in same dark ages, deforest, turn wood into charcoal, and then emit CO2 and CO in burning g it, creating 10X the problem because they removed the trees). They also conviently ignore the issue of the removal of the largest CO2 removal machine on earth, the Amazon Rain Forest, which is being lost by several square miles a day and is like 50-60% smaller than it was 30 years ago. Climate change? Maybe. Environment change, almost certainly. Man made? Not necessarily. Exacerbated by man? Probably. Yet you dumb political moron: It's not my little part of you insane little world, it is all the crap you carefully ignore, like: Not using technology to address it, not fixing the biggest contributors (Like Amazon issue, and China) and instead focus your pea brain and manipulation and corrupt hands in my pocket, to steal whatever you can, impose whatever rules you want on me, because it is easier to screw the common person, than to address the biggest causes. The EPA Administrator may respectfully GFH. Until they actually have a factual basis that addresses the whole picture, Global Warming/Climate Change/Environmental Change (insert your favorite label her) Change is a myth and a legend. There is some small truth in their BS, but a huge amount of lies and myth and manipulation as well. So, lady, you lose on lack of credibility, as well as perjury.

Exactly, so then, there IS something wrong with this picture? Amazing how so few seemed to be bothered by it, you never saw this on CNN or even Fox.

It's obvious that scientific skepticism is not allowed when dealing with the Church of the Warming Planet.

And to think that everything is based on consent of the governed. . . Sigh.

The problem is not scientifically proven.
In fact, the forecasts that were used to prove the problem have been shown by history to be rubbish.
Emails have been published between insiders that showed that they, the political source of the hypothesis, knew it was false and discussed their efforts in lying to cover up the failure of the hypothesis.
Ignoring these facts is irrational.
1. There is no proven problem to be fixed.
2. there is no proposed solution that does not make the supposed problem worse instead of better... unless you think that the starvation of a few billion people, unemployment at more than 30%, markets controlled and stifled by government looters, and world economy in ruins is an acceptable solution.
Denying that there is no proven problem is absurd. Defending a government official who wants to use government power to loot the way of life Americans have produced by hard work is consent to dictatorship.

"People have to start living a life that's commensurate with reductions in greenhouse gases," McCarthy said.
I think this claim is essentially a fact. We have to reduce the emissions or find someway to mitigate them.

Denying the problem altogether is absurd.

"People have to start living a life that's commensurate with reductions in greenhouse gases," McCarthy said.

This quote does show the incompetent politically appointed commissioner to agree with the goals of Klein and using power of the EPA to force people to act against their free will.
Global warming as hypothesized and forecast by the UN climate czars and their toady "scientists" has been disproven by 19 years of global cooling.
First there must be proof that the GW hypothesis is true. This has not happened. Then there must be proof that any specific change will result in a solution without side effects more horrible than the original problem. This has not been done.
The Global Warming hypothesis is a political agenda to centralize world wide power for the statist looter cartel and destroy individual liberty, free markets, and American sovereignty.