"We need to figure out how to turn the election process into a social process".
The solution is to change the collectivist philosophy in the country....
We need people with the intent to live their lives with ethical self-interest ,people have to shrug the brain washing that relentlessly attacks the reasoning of individuals and stops rational thought.
We need to vote Trump to avoid a strengthened verifiable corrupt leftist statist Clinton so we can work on the above.

Hi Chad ,
Please offer the basis for doubting Trump would "not be any better than Shillary"

Trump is closer to correct than Clinton and I have no fundamental issue with his policies. Not only that, but Trump has more to lose if this country loses. I believe that despite his lack of decorum or consistent philosophical principles, I can count on his own self-interest to do the job.

The reason not to vote for Trump vanishes under scrutiny. Though I dislike certain behaviors exhibited by Trump, I cannot thereby justify a refusal to act. The reason is that by not voting I give license to an altruist, moocher, or looter to vote more taxes, regulation, and chaos into the body politic. Knowing this is the outcome, not voting makes me an altruist. Enlightened self-interest dictates I vote for Trump. This is not about a conservative bandwagon, or an anti-liberal bandwagon, or even an anti-Hillary bandwagon. This is a vote to slow the tide of cultural self-destruction. This is a vote to apply the tourniquet, however painful, and stop the hemorrhaging of the past eight years.

Ayn Rand has a vivid example of the mystical mental construct where an individual confronted with a river of molten lava chants prayers to the supernatural to assuage the flow. To refuse to vote for Trump in this instance would amount to the same. Thank you all for your feedback. My vote is now cast.

You are assuming that once the supreme court justices are nominated they will be approved. I also don't think Trump will really be any better than Shillary, just different.

The country is controlled by two major corporations. No not Wal-Mart and Exxon. The country is under the rule of the Democrat and Republican parties which are private corporations.

The only way to fight this rule is to eliminate the party system and their hand in your pocket called the income tax. The only fair tax is one of consumption with receipts going to the States, not the Federal government. Until such time, the Trump corporation is strong enough to compete with the Corrupt party corporations and perhaps start the ball rolling towards our original system That would indeed make America great again.

If you want to know what we need to do read the material here at http://www.TheSocietyProject.org

No.

If you are at all political you would have melted years ago.

Ah, to be left alone to live our lives. However, they want to make us their business for control purposes.

I might be on the way to advanced old age, but I an thankful that I am not a sensitive snowflake.

Judging by the markdowns, some other people missed the point.

Probably the older you are, the more appalling it is. And I'm pretty damn old.

Yep, I just want to be left alone.
Fascist control freaks can mind their own business--because me dino ain't their business.

Yep, I just want to be left alone.
Scumbags can kindly stay out of my face, my home and my pockets.

Too bad there is not a choice for "None of the Above". Legitimizing a corrupt government by voting in a corrupt election is putting your stamp of approval on the entire mess. Elections are no longer a viable method of selecting leaders because so few are engaged the process. However if we look at the social media of today we find just about everyone in the world engaged. We need to figure out how to turn the election process into a social process.

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/thinki...

Sometimes looks can be deceiving , at any rate everyone hopes for a peaceful day.

Sorry, missed the [sarcasm] tag.

Too true....just slowed down. I'm reading a thriller about the drug use and moral decay in our country. It is appalling.

I won't be voting for any would-be president.
Nobody on the ballot decrees to end collectivism, regardless of the moniker. America and most of this planet has become die-hard collectives; witness 2012 with 98% voted for exactly that.
Now it's way too late to bother with choosing from lesser evils. Global collapse is now the future. Hillary will assure it, and the Donald can do little better.

I love Ted Cruz. However, given the mud thrown on Trump, I kind of doubt Ted would have survived as well as Trump has. Trump just won't have any of it and that's a very good thing, given the amount of lying and outright slander done by the other side and their media lapdogs.

Will Ted Cruz have the steel inside needed to make it to the top in later years? I sure hope so. However, I think he needs more toughening up before then.

Humor, n. - a comic, absurd, or incongruous quality causing amusement. -- dictionary . com

(In this case, a response to claims that a vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for Hillary; or, on the other side, claims that a vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for Trump.)

Also, please observe the smiley face at the end of my post.

The probability of ME having ANY effect on the country, the government, the economy, the banking system, or anything else here is essentially zero. I toss my hat in the ring to hopefully add with other hats and make some effect. There are a lot of hats in the Trump ring now, and he just might get elected and keep the Hildebeast OUT for good.

I would have read your link, but I've been gone from Facebook for years and will never return. Perhaps it can be found elsewhere?

Read the last article from the edition of Reason Magazine that came out a couple of days ago. You will quickly see that the probability of any one single voter's effect on the presidential election is zero.

Heading that way pretty fast.
As of now, I don't think it can be turned around, only slowed down. But then, who could have predicted this insane election 4 years ago?