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What do you all think of the Tea Party?

Posted by OH45458 12 years, 5 months ago to Politics
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As far as I can see, the liberals in the Democrat Party, and the spineless progressives in the Republican Party are leading this country down the economic road to oblivion. That being said, I am open to a new party that more closely matches my philosophy and desires, and will promote policies that will serve society rather than enslave it.

While I am not a member of the Tea Party movement, I sympathize with their intent, at least with what I perceive as their intent: that being smaller, less intrusive government, and a return to the founder's original intentions in this regard. However, my understanding is that this movement is just grass roots, with no real central national platform, and certainly with no vetting process for the candidates that it backs.

Can this movement be successful without organizing at the national level?

Is this movement viable? Will it become, like the GOP did just prior to the Civil War, the dominant party of the country?

Just interested in opinions...


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  • Posted by khalling 11 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    very interesting. for other's clarification the equation is A^N+B^N=C^N where N>2
    My husband was at U of T Dallas in grad. physics just a few years after you.
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  • Posted by LeeCrites 11 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Just for giggles and grins: Fermat's Last Theorem:

    In 1976, I was part of a team that wrote a program which ran (in the background) on a University of Texas (Austin) science department computer. It ran for basically the whole school year until it exhausted the computer's number range, looking for a set of numbers that might satisfy the equation with N > 2. It failed (of course), but we could not say, at that time, that the failure was because a set did not exist or that the set of numbers simply exceeded the mathematical capabilities of the computers we had access to.

    My "gut feeling" was that at some point, a set of three numbers would be found which satisfy the equation. I guess Andrew Wiles proved me wrong on that one.

    Working on that is what gave me the hobby of doing number theory, even today. Right now I am part of a group working on a "fix" to the equation being used to calculate PI.
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  • Posted by LeeCrites 11 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Wow, BambiB, take a chill pill! Personal attacks don't prove your point.

    To answer your accusations, I *DO* know about both social and medical research. In social research, I am one of the ones who helped develop the "Expanded Likert Scale" back in the 1980's. As I said in the post you replied to, I spent a number of years actually DOING social research.

    Here is the point you need to take home from this post: When people accuse others of a laundry list of things, especially without any background information to do so legitimately, what they are really exposing is their own heart.

    Apparently you decided what I said was an offense, so your idea was to go on the offensive and "put me in my place." Unfortunately, your attempt used a significant lack of real information, so it really did not speak of *me*.
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  • Posted by BambiB 11 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    So, from your post we can surmise that:

    1) You are not an expert in economics. Based on your admitted lack of knowledge, what are your qualifications for determining whether someone else is an expert in economics? Your praise of the financial acumen of women in your social circles is the equivalent of someone who failed mathematics lauding the (basic) arithmetic abilities of some associates - utterly unaware that algebra, geometry, calculus or differential equations even exist.

    2) You appear to be unaware that seven women is not a representative study. Or maybe you meant more than seven. Does 15 cover it? Have you thought that maybe the men in your family may be abnormally deficient?

    3) Your wife can talk. A lot.

    4) You have difficulty accepting any study that is contrary to your personal prejudices.

    5) You have no knowledge or understanding of statistical methods or representative sample sizes, and hence no comprehension of the mathematical foundation of any study or any kind. You wouldn't know a confidence interval if it bit you.

    6) You are in error regarding "margin of error". But since you have no actual knowledge of statistics, this is not surprising. If you don't know a normal distribution from a chi-square, you're just talking through your hat.

    Did you do any research? Or are you just sharing your "gut" feeling? If the latter, maybe you can save everyone a lot of time, effort and money: What's your "gut" feeling on how to cure cancer? Proof of Fermat's last theorem? The solution to getting women to vote responsibly instead of for massive government? And if your gut doesn't inform you on these matters, why should anyone (yourself included) trust it on another topic you know nothing about?
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  • Posted by LeeCrites 11 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    BambiB:

    I won't argue your stats or studies. I spent a number of years doing social research, and I can tell you from personal experience that many of the studies that show counter results never see the light of day.

    Not all -- there are a LOT of honest social scientists who publish results which prove their thesis wrong.

    The same can be said of medical research -- except I know darn few "honest medical researchers" who publish results which are counter to their proposals. Actually, I know none that do.

    The comment you made was that the majority of women were economically stupid. My personal experience (wife, six daughters, grand-daughters, mother, aunts, etc) is counter to that. The women I know were all more fiscally intelligent than their husbands. I know my wife is.

    She can talk circles around professional financial planners (who seem to all be male), leaving them wondering what just hit them.

    Part of the process that we, as sentient individuals, must go through when we read something is a "sanity check."

    Does what we are reading "sound right" to us?

    Does it mesh with our personal experiences?

    If the people you know were part of the research group, would that have significantly changed the outcome?

    If after answering these questions, you wonder about the study, then there is a chance the study is not valid.

    Remember, the average social survey will ask a small group of folks, perhaps as few as a couple of hundred, and then make generalizations for society as a whole.

    When they give a "margin of error," it is the potential error of the statistical analysis based on the actual results received, not the margin of error of the results reported and society as a whole.

    You want me to admit you were right? Okay. You were right.

    Did that change anything? I still only know a few females who are financial morons; I still know a large number of women who are more fiscally responsible and literate than their husbands.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'd be happy to assisted if you knew what you missed. lol tell me the last thing you can see maybe I can figure it out from there.
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  • Posted by khalling 11 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    for me, it was before that. it gets down to one word or less per line and I can't make sense. it might be the resolution my screen is set to? what did I miss?
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I don't know what you can't read....the permalink thing is no more... click on "in reply to this thread" so see it....
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  • Posted by khalling 11 years, 9 months ago
    I can't read this, I'm permalinked. can you tell me on the other side?

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  • Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 9 months ago
    Hey! We're not all emotional wrecks.... but admittedly most women I know are. I do NOT get it. And frankly I'm quite sick to death of it.
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  • Posted by khalling 11 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    ?? bambi said something about venison? I thought bambi was obsessed with eradicating the world of voting females
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  • Posted by Rocky_Road 11 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Too bad for me about the sauce...I make my own from an old Cajun recipe, and although it takes almost 9 hours from cutting board to the table, there is no way that it could last in my household for more than 4 days!

    P.S. anyone that wants to try the recipe, just message me!
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  • Posted by khalling 11 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I grew up in Iowa. we can beef. I know-it's weird, but works. also we make mince meat and can that. lasts 2 years. maybe more but I don't do wax seals. I went to a museum once that had a
    traveling display of titanic articles including canned goods. the pickles looked perfect.
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  • Posted by khalling 11 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    whoops. now I know where to look.
    spaghetti sauce has a onger shelf life than peanut butter. which is sad. also, cans of tuna and crab. tuna over peanut butter
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  • Posted by Rocky_Road 11 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "... peanut butter will be worth its weight in gold..."

    You just gave me an idea: I'm going to hide my gold in the peanut butter filling my pantry.

    With any luck, a thief will hate the stuff.
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  • Posted by LeeCrites 11 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    YOU may have a peanut allergy -- but others don't. Trade and barter are valid forms of exchange, yes?

    I have things in my pantry I probably will never use -- but I know someone who will.
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  • Posted by Rocky_Road 11 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Unless you have a peanut allergy...then you're broke!

    Na...I like peanut butter, but not three times a day.
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  • Posted by BambiB 11 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hmm. And was this Country formed by people who spent all their time "persuading"? Or did they use guns? Just wondering how deep is your knowledge of history.
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