Suggest reading The Real Lincoln by Thomas DiLorenzo which extensively researches Lincoln's actions and uses contemporary writings of the time to support the points being made.
My objection is not to the fact that slaves eventually were freed, but that Lincoln gets praised for an essentially ineffective executive order that still left all slaves in the north enslaved while it could not effectively free anyone in areas that were not under northern control. It was a typical move by the murderer of 400,000 Americans in an unnecessary war.

You should provide some evidence for your claim other than just say so.

So wikipedia is a bad source of information again. Just another federal propaganda arm that has been lying about Lincoln's Tariff War against States Rights for 150 years.

They are not connected to their mind and possibly their brain doesn't put out enough energy to create one in the first place.

Their ancestors never got in line when consciousness was being doled out!...laughing my butt off.

Discussing thought with liberals is a useless endeavor. They operate only on emotion and just change the subject if the discussion turns to facts and thinking

That is exactly what bicamerals did before achieving unicameralism and connected to their mind. Julian Jaynes, The Breakdown of the bicameral brain...(he used mind to mean the same thing...today, we know better and seek to be more specific).

It did what it did,
“The Emancipation Proclamation, or Proclamation 95, was a presidential proclamation and executive order issued by United States President Abraham Lincoln on January 1, 1863. It changed the federal legal status of more than 3.5 million enslaved African Americans in the designated areas of the South from slave to free.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emanc...

Wars are historically signaled as ended when the declaration of surrender is signed, not when everyone stops fighting.

Lincoln destroyed the American republic. Freeing the slaves was done after he was dead, dead, dead. The Emancipation Proclamation only freed slaves in areas where Lincoln had no control, so it didn't free anyone.
However, let's not get distracted by politics from 150 years ago. The history of that era is fraught with propaganda and no one living today is unbiased.

I agree that Democrats do appear to be irrational today.

They have a mind and they have emotions. BUT, they choose to act on the emotions only without bothering to think. They use the brain to figure ways to further act on their emotions, which makes them dangerous.

They take the easier and lazier route. It’s easier to believe than think. It’s easier to take than earn. It’s easier to destroy than create.

"SingleBrained...or 1/2 of one anyway...bicameral-1.

If they had a mind, they could not do what the do and think...if you want to call it thinking.

Its a lesson for us deplorables. We need to stand up more for what we think is right, and discount the political correctness pressures that are put on us. That is hard to do in an interconnected and sometimes violent society where even Megyn Kelley, Papa John, Bill OReilly and others get slammed for the mere utterance of the word "nigger", "fat chick", or even talk about "black face" (whatever that means...). Its spread to violence for just working for or donating time to Trump

It’s like the Democrats haven’t been this mad to get back power since Lincoln freed the slaves.

Who knows. Politicians are opportunists. She appeals to her base in whatever hell hole elects her. Politicians are pigs really, and I think she has hatred, but really goes off the deep end to look good to that base of idiots.

But to discover that objective reality requires thought, and the liberals I've tried to engage in deeper logical thinking just wave that idea off.

I think she hides lots of her hate from the public. If she was completely honest and forthright about what she believes, she would likely be in jail now.

I think we have at least three parties now. The Democrat party, which is basically collectivist now, the Republican party, which is somewhat less collectivist, but with a misguided reliance on one (or more) GODS, the libertarian party with its intellectually challenged platform of individualism, and then there is Trump, who is more anti establishment than anything and wants to break up all the parties really and their crooked deals (while giving lip service to the constitution and to gods but with really no intellectual backup)

Its a mess thats not likely to get fixed during my lifetime. I pick the lesser of the evils out there currently, given that there are no good alternatives available in a country where at "least" 50% are a dyed in the wool collectivist mob

the PC police are going to get you for that....
I think she is just EVIL to the core, but at least she is honest and forthright about what she believes. I have to respect ther because at least she doesnt hide behind some sort of liberal stuff about compassion and such things

It IS a war out there, and we need to take sides (From Francisco in AS).

I have no more liberal friends any more. Why waste time or help them anymore. Makes no sense.

Your daughter is probably not ignorant of the facts. She just disregards them in favor of the emotional basis of collectivism. You will never get her to give up the emotion and start thinking. She is an independent being and she has chosen her path- unfortunately. She will have to learn the lessons of collectivism on her own, and accept that your relationship with her has changed. "for family sake" shouldnt mean you have to associate with ALL family. Some of them just arent worth associating with. Life is kind of short and wasting time is not a good idea

At least thats my thought on the subject.

Yep. They take orders and march in step very well. Like weaker rods that make a much stronger rod when tied all together in a bundle.

One thing that makes them strong is that they stick together and are singleminded in their attack on their enemies. Far more than people on the right are doing. It IS a war out there, and we better accept it.

Getting rid of any resistance to the liberal agenda is NO 1. That means re-establishing control of political correctness, dividing the resistance, getting rid of Trump as its figurehead, undoing everything and anything that Trump has or will do if they cant get rid of him. And all this by ANY MEANS available. ANYTHING.

It IS a war out there, and we deplorables need to take sides.

That was Plato’s Cave. But even in Plato’s cave there was objective reality. A stick sticking up from the water, which looks bent, but is not actually bent, does not prove that there is no objective reality. You just need to use reason to discover why the stick “looks” bent. It’s not black magic.

It appears the left is preaching what one of the Greek philosophers (I forget which one) taught, that we can't see objective reality. The example was as though we were in a cave, seeing only the shadows of reality, appearing in a different perspective depending on where we stood.

The mob is everywhere, not only in government.

You are probably referring to their employment status.

There is a huge contingent outside of government as well.