The REAL gay marriage issue

Posted by LeoRizzuti 12 years, 3 months ago to Culture
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Libertarians need to clarify their stance on gay marriage to be more consistent with their other stances. It is not that Libertarians should be for government sanctioning of gay marriage, but that government should have no say so in who marries whom. It is a private contract between two individuals and should be seen as such. Of course, if you go back to the militant gay marriage proponents with that they will not support it, because to them it is not really about being free to marry whomever you would like, but to be able to derive government benefits from your relationship. Not a Libertarian ideal at all.

I support the idea of homosexual people (or any other people for that matter) being free to marry whomever they want. Why should I care as long as their choices do not affect me? But that is the whole point, it should NOT AFFECT ME. Marriage should not be an avenue to gaining more government benefits, or else it becomes something that the taxpayers should have a voice in. If you truly want the freedom to marry whomever you want, then fight to get the government out if the whole thing. Otherwise you appear to simply be looking for another way to suck on the government teat.


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  • Posted by Mitch 12 years, 3 months ago
    Very good post and I agree with you 100% but I’m having a hard time quantifying my own definition of marriage. I really don’t have a problem with the gay marriage thing as long as I don’t have to know about it (the militant gays you spoke about). I personal have any interest in keeping the definition of marriage between a man and a woman for strictly selfish reasons, I don’t want to have to declare the sex of my wife (it just seems wrong). I’m total in favor of the whole civil union thing. I still see that as an Objectivist view on the issue, I really don’t care what you do, just don’t affect me.

    The other point is that this is a slippery slope… I’ve brought this up many time with many friends and each and every time they disagree and tell me it’s not the same. It is totally the same and we really can’t do anything about it if we toe the libertarian line on the issue. If marriage is legal between same sex couples then we have to allow polygamy; that’s going to through a wrench into the whole works.
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  • Posted by khalling 12 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I agree with your first statement, for which I gave a point. Your second statement I find naive and emotionally based
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  • Posted by khalling 12 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    it takes years to change a culture. look at public schools. how many thought the govt owed them something pre 1960 vs post 1960-2000?
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  • Posted by $ jmlesniewski 12 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The OP is right. The government has no business of marriage of any kind.

    There is no communist conspiracy and saying there is hides the issue. This is 2013. not 1960.
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  • Posted by UncommonSense 12 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    DK, you're spot on! The homosexual thing is merely a tool that's exploited by the Communists (what's that about the bourgeois exploiting the proletariat?) anyways, once the Communists have firm control, they suddenly turn on the gay thing & declare it 'behavior not accepted by The State' & then arrest them. The big lie with communism is the "rebuilding" of anything. Rebuilding implies something to be created. To create something requires a person to stick their neck out and take a risk ~ that behavior is strictly prohibited according to communism's ideology.
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