Who Can You Trust?

Posted by Herb7734 5 years, 2 months ago to Politics
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Do politicians lie to you? Most Gulchers will, I think, will agree that they do.A better question may be, ;Do politicians ever tell you the truth? I have discovered that the people are lied to primarily in order to keep the liar or liars in office. They may use excuses such as it's for the good of the country, or that it may not look good, but in the long run, it's a matter of something bad that will eventually be a good outcome. For example, the two world wars.In both cases the USA had decided to be neutral. Everyone knew that the neutrality depended largely on the combatants leaving America alone. If the USA was attacked, it would respond by by joining the side that didn't attack them. In both WW1 and WW2 the antagonist was comprised of Germany and others who faced off against the allies who were made up of Britain and France Japan, was the powerhouse who allied themselves with Germany.So, without writing an entire history book, here's what was told to the American people. In WW1 The land war had devolved into trench warfare which was a stalemate. It amounted to who could keep their armies supplied with munitions and supplemental materials . Germany was in a better position to do so as Britain needed to get it's supplies mostly from the USA. British ships carrying war materials from America became the target of German submarines. The Germans managed to sink most of British shipping so they started hiding war materials on American ships. Eventually, the Germans got wise to this and issued warnings to America that if American ships or British ships carrying Americans and hiding war cargo for England would become legitimate targets of war,So now comes the british ship The Lusitania. A huge four stack liner with four giant turbines that was the fastest thing afloat in those times. She was nicknamed "The Greyhound." The forward cabins were scooped out and in their place were water tight bins filled with guncotton. A highly inflammable chemical needed for use with arms such as cannons.

When the Lusitania sailed from the USA to England, the Germans knew about the illicit cargo.Four submarines were sent after the Greyhounf which was Lusitania's nickname and at the peril of their lives the Germans warned The Lusitania that if they didn't turn around and off-load their armaments they would be fired upon. The sleek beautiful ship paid no attention. Even though it contained over 100 Americans it was also filled with women and children. Over a thousand of them.

In 1941, the Japanese needed war materials, and like the England of 1915, got it's material from America. Once America cut them off they decided to punish America and get what they needed by threatening further punishment. They attacked the American Fleet at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii and decimated.it.In the case of the Luisitania, First Lord of the Amiralty,Winston Churchill and American soon-to-be-sec. of state Robert Lansing were complicit in maneuvering the slaughter. In the case of Pearl Harbor, our "Good pal" Winnie was once again "Saving" England at the expense of hundreds of lives. The press was told that the Lusitania was attacked without warning and that the women and children escaping in lifeboats were shot by Germans from the submarines as they sat helpless in their wooden boats.Which was a complete fabrication. In the case of Pearl harbor, Churchill and President Franklin D. Roosevelt Knew 10 months in advance of the planned attack.

In both cases, both attacks could have been avoided if the best interests o the people were truly put in first place.
Those were the biggest lies I could think of. You can multiply those by the hundreds, or perhaps thousands of lies told by the "Elites" to us poor ignorant common folks.So, if your first impression is that you're being lied to, you are probably right..


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  • Posted by term2 5 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I dont think I have enough time to both live my life and try and protect our culture from the likes of stupid and manipulative leftists.
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  • Posted by 5 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Tojo and associates were hellbent on making Japan an international power and taking them out of their reclusive past. His method was through conquoring countries, whereas producing superior products on the world markets have done what he desired without firing a single shot. Capitalism doesn't work? Hah!
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  • Posted by 5 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    We let the current state of affairs happen, and as a result we have young persons indoctrinated into the benefits of socialism from the first grade all the way through college.We must learn to pay attention and be on the offensive against the teachers who propose ideologies that will destroy us.
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  • Posted by 5 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Churchill was, in a way, a futurist in that he had a knack of seeing accurately the results of current actions as a result in the future.Since he put the future of England above all else, he was impervious to how many deaths it took to keep Great Britain great. American lives, even British lives were not important so long as they served to keep England on top and western civilization in general dominant.
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  • Posted by term2 5 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Milton Friedman said the idea of socialism might be attractive but actual socialism is run by power seeking evil people. This is c why it fails historically
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  • Posted by 5 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Some may be idealistic at first, but become jaded quickly or quit and go into private business.
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  • Posted by 5 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Nothing is inevitable.Hitler might have stopped at Europe, since trying to extend his battles over the Atlantic could be daunting. But then, he was on the verge of ICBMs.
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  • Posted by term2 5 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Good analysis. Sounds much more reasonable that the north wanted something from the south, and the south wanted as a result to simply split from the north. The north should have just let them go if they wanted OUT.
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  • Posted by term2 5 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I wish there was. Its like once you have something you dont have to pay for, its hard for it to be taken away.
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  • Posted by term2 5 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I think public schools should be closed, period. There are other way to get educated today which dont rely on propaganda.
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  • Posted by term2 5 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Exactly. Unfortunately Trump sticks to his story that the chinese are paying for the tariffs. He must think we are stupid.
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  • Posted by term2 5 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Politicians are scum mostly. I mean why would a decent person want to even get into politics.
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  • Posted by term2 5 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Once Hitler secured Europe, he would have come for us in America, so eventually we were going to have to fight him
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  • Posted by term2 5 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I just started reading the book that was mentioned talking about the usa and the japanese. I think a number of actions were taken by FDR to tount the japs and make them think we were going to attack them.
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  • Posted by term2 5 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Roosevelt went into debt to create the money to pay for the artificial demand of war materials. It wasnt until later that the inflation surfaced from the printing of the money
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  • Posted by 5 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    What else would they do?
    In America, we turned from cars to jeeps and tanks. In Japan they turned from tanks and planes to cars. There's an interesting analogy somewhere there. As Trump continues to build up our military, the advances in weaponry is jaw dropping. A ship the size of a destroyer carries firepower that is as powerful as a WW2 battleship, a cannon fires shells as fast as the rounds of a machine gun, not to mention lasers and things that I can look at, and know they are a weapon but can't tell you what they do. We've come a far cry from the Colt six-shooter when Alan Ladd blew Jack Palance away in "Shane." And the hand cranked Gatling gun was high Tech..
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  • Posted by 5 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Good point. It escapes attention that all the alphabet soup projects used by Roosevelt to make it look as if something was being done for the economy but actually had little or no effect at all. It took a world war to finally warm up the oil so the motor of the economy would finally start to roll. No one could afford cars, but the USA could build tanks, warplanes, guns, and cannons. The factories started humming again and one of the Japanese generals feared that they had "Awakened a sleeping tiger."
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  • Posted by mccannon01 5 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, Deming. Continuous improvement and just in time manufacturing. I recall attending lectures sponsored by my employer back in the '80s or '90s.
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  • Posted by Lucky 5 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, some stories go this way, some that. Soichiro Honda is now a legend.

    After the war Japan, its economy, its industry were in a bad way, bombed, destroyed, and short of skills.
    Some very curious developments then took place. In a decade, industry was back up, in another decade a giant motor industry was rising. It broke a few motor industry traditions, they produced vehicles that a buying public would want. They did not follow the Italian and old English (Ferrari, Morgan, AstonMartin) of design with engineering passion, nor the Germans for making the best and price will follow, nor some of the UK and US companies that would produce and price as per market research outfits told them. They designed, made, and built vehicles that buyers saw they could afford, that soon earned a reputation for quality, reliability and performance, all this while customers recommended the brand and bought the same brand again in a few years time.
    A crucial part of that was manufacturing. In 1951, Japan called in an expert in statistical quality control, WE Deming an American engineer.
    US industry had no use for these ideas then, it thought. In Japan he toured and lectured, they bowed, they sat at his feet and absorbed. His ideas were taken up with relish, notably in motor vehicle, electrical and electronic industries. Many call it- the Toyota Production System.
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