Masks

Posted by $ number6 4 years, 11 months ago to Government
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Just was thinking, how many "Gulchers" are wearing masks?It si well known that masks do little to keep the wearer from being infected and are primarily beneficial to protect others in case the "wearer" is infecctious?


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  • Posted by term2 4 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Whether AR wrote AS to be a warning, or a prediction of what was going to happen in the usa, it DOES read like a newspaper. The proclamations made by our governor (Nevada) read a bit to much like directive 10-289.
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  • Posted by term2 4 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Maybe the scarves Dr Birx wears to look cool have some anti-corona benefits she isnt sharing with us?
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  • Posted by term2 4 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    One point- If you need a mask to protect yourself from getting infected upon going somewhere- maybe you should just NOT go there in the first place !!
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  • Posted by term2 4 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I wouldnt deliberately sneeze in the face of someone else if I knew I was infected. That said- I agree with you that it should be up to the other people to protect themselves from infection, and not up to me to prevent them from getting infected.
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  • Posted by term2 4 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I wont wear a mask one just to satisfy some bureaucrat. I am old enough to make my own health decisions and pay the price or enjoy the benefits

    I will still vote for Trump, but I think he got hoodwinked into shutting down a perfectly good economy by deep stater democrats. It will probably cost him the election.
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  • Posted by term2 4 years, 11 months ago
    I quit going to costco, since they require wearing a mask. Too bad, but I lived for a long time without costco, and can do so again.
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  • Posted by term2 4 years, 11 months ago
    I refuse to wear one. I just stay away from places where others are sick, or I am squashed in close proximity to others (nightclubs, large crowds, subways, buses, planes).

    Its my life, and I will consider a mask only after analyzing the effectiveness. They are a pain in the a$$, IMHO
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  • Posted by mccannon01 4 years, 11 months ago
    I wear one when out near others, such as grocery shopping, but I really wonder about the efficacy when one considers most masks prevent viral passage in or out is like putting up a chain link fence to keep mosquitoes out of your yard.
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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 4 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    This is the point.

    An old coworker used to sneeze the most disgusting liquid sneezes, and NOT TRY to catch them.
    You could see stuff hitting the wall in his office... He needed a catchers mitt!

    Sorry, we need etiquette!
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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 4 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Randy,
    Lookup the definition of "Carrier" and then "Super Spreader".
    The problem is that you could be a carrier, and unbeknownst to you, become a super spreader.
    THIS is the problem with this virus. When you track that one lady who went to church and ended up infecting 1,200 people... WOW.
    But she WAS at the hospital, waiting for test results, but was feeling "okay"...

    Obviously, you do you. But this is an interesting topic.
    For the 30-60 minutes a WEEK I might need to wear a mask... Not a problem. It's not that hard. And the protection for others is way higher than you realize. Even a homemade mask reduces like 90% of the particulate that stays in the air behind you.
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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 4 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    As always, take it to it's logical conclusion...

    Do you wash your hands? Do you wipe with toilet paper? And if you didn't do either, would you shake someones hand with an unclean hand?

    Would you consider washing your hands "living for the sake of another?"

    I wear a Mask for the same reason I wear clothing... To save the lives of those around me in case I didn't!! Now, I don't dress "pretty", nor should you ask me to. Just ask my wife. LOL.

    But if you were invited to my house, when my daughter was young, and constantly sick (thanks vaccines), and getting a cold could hospitalize her...
    Are you saying, if you WERE sick, you would ignore my wishes and come on over and let me assume the risks of your actions, BECAUSE some quote, which is supposed to be more about living in an indebted way, than in a polite and educated society???? (really curious). Because when I am not feeling 100% (because of our experiences), I will call a host and say "Hey, I woke up with a slight sore throat, I think I was just run down, but it's up to YOU if we come over, or you still want to come over!

    Respectfully think that "Wearing a mask" to protect the weakest in society, for a specific time/event... Is NOT living for the sake of another.
    BTW, if you KNEW you were contagious but without symptoms and wouldn't get caught, would you go visiting a Rest home? (of course not)
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 4 years, 11 months ago
    I have an iron constitution, and rarely get contagious diseases, and when I do, the effects pass quickly compared to others. However, because of that beneficial condition, I recognize I could be an asymptomatic carrier. I'm staying home as much as possible, using delivery services as much as possible. In that regard I'm very fortunate, as the wait time for delivery here is less than two hours. There's not as much pressure here in Oklahoma to wear masks, and generally people have been sensible about distance, and liberal use of plastic shields. I have a mask in my car, but haven't worn it, as no one has insisted on it. We're too busy here trying to get people back to work safely.
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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 4 years, 11 months ago
    I go outside a lot for walking. 15+ Miles/week is the minimum for me. No mask. I don't talk to people, and outside isn't the point.

    But I am a HUGE Proponent of wearing them (and made 10+ of them), in stores and if I go to someones house, etc.

    Key points:
    1) When EVERYONE is wearing a mask inside it BECOMES MUCH SAFER for everyone
    2) Yes, it is to protect everyone else from you, and to contain YOUR sneezes, coughs, etc
    3) It still does take the stuff that is missed, and GIVES YOU A FILTER for it. REDUCING Your innoculum (exposure dose).

    In summary. Wear the mask to make others more safe! Because YOU CANNOT KNOW if you are an ASYMPTOMATIC CARRIER!!! And those are the big spreaders!
    Then, wear a mask to give you added protection.

    Now, how does this work at a restaurant? Obviously you should NOT wear a mask while eating! Constantly opening it and closing it or removing it and putting it back is horrible. The same cloth that protects, actually CONTAINS the virus. This is tricky. I like the outside areas with "Tents" and pizza Paddles used to pass in the food.

    Anyways, time to open up! Wear masks at the office, but not in the car. And lets get some UV Lights in place.

    In fact, the A/C Systems should bubble the air through Ozonated Water, Exposed to heavy UV and pushed back out... Especially on a plane, preferably through a HEPA 5 filter!
    But that's just the Engineer in me!
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  • Posted by $ 4 years, 11 months ago
    This is fun and shows how arbitrary these rules are they are trying to get us to live under :

    Social distancing. In the USA its 6ft. In most of Europe it’s 1-1.5 meters. The WHO suggests 1+ meter. For the metric challenged Europe is a little more than 3-4.5 ft. How many more tables are in a restaurant with that change vs USA?

    https://www.stripes.com/news/europe/o...

    I wonder if I wear this bracelet if the Gestapo in some of the USA states would leave me alone:

    https://www.barrons.com/news/buzz-off...


    FROM THE WHO :

    “Maintain at least 1 metre (3 feet) distance between yourself and others. Why? When someone coughs, sneezes, or speaks they spray small liquid droplets from their nose or mouth which may contain virus. If you are too close, you can breathe in the droplets, including the COVID-19 virus if the person has the disease.

    Avoid going to crowded places. Why? Where people come together in crowds, you are more likely to come into close contact with someone that has COIVD-19 and it is more difficult to maintain physical distance of 1 metre (3 feet).”

    https://www.who.int/emergencies/disea...
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  • Posted by $ blarman 4 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "I saw a photo of a guy in line at the grocery store wearing scuba gear."

    That's hilarious!
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  • Posted by $ Radio_Randy 4 years, 11 months ago
    Not yet...

    My wife and I have masks and will start wearing them, if we become concerned for our own health. Since neither of us is sick, we see no reason to wear them.

    Some may suggest that we "might be infected" and that we should wear them to protect others...nope. If that were the concern...we would simply stay home.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 4 years, 11 months ago
    Me dino bought two masks similar to the one in the link for $5 each. I alternate wearing one while the other gets washed with the laundry.
    https://www.etsy.com/listing/80776730...
    I want to wear a mask in public places because I'm 73 and have Type 2 diabetes. Heard on my car radio yesterday that most who have died of the Corona virus in Alabama so far average oiut to be age 72.
    People who chose not to wear a mask do not bother me. That's their it's a free country business.
    The Demonrat-run City of Birmingham makes everyone wear a mask in public on pain of a $500 fine. I mostly stay within freer "satellite cities" just outside Birmingham's jurisdiction.
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  • Posted by mspalding 4 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Good point. It's just like sneezing into your arm rather than into the air. I do value the lives of my fellow humans.
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  • Posted by $ 4 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    So you wear one based on peer pressure? and based on the incorrect belief that the mask (when in public) does not help anything since the virus is not transmitted by casual contact.

    The common courtesy is to stay home when sick, sneezing, coughing etc. Always has been.

    I am not sick, am not a spreader and respect other people's distance. The mask is a symbol of control.
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  • Posted by Rex_Little 4 years, 11 months ago
    I do NOT feel it is my duty to take care of someone else

    No, but it's common courtesy to do your best to avoid spreading your infection to others. I wear mine when I'm inside a store, whether the store requires it or not (some do, most don't). It's probably superfluous as long as I maintain separation, and certainly superfluous if I'm not sick (which I'm almost certainly not), but it doesn't hurt.
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  • Posted by $ rockymountainpirate 4 years, 11 months ago
    I do not wear a mask. I had to yesterday to get an xray of my toe that I jammed badly (I was in a boot for 3 months, got it off Thursday, mashed it on Monday). I didn't wear it correctly and they didn't push me on it. I won't shop at a store that forces me to wear one either. I have a choice where I spend my dollars.

    The other day I went to my local small grocery store and a couple came in wearing their fancy N95 masks. When I was in the produce department (which is fully stocked, but the junk processed stuff is in low supply), the lady was parked with her cart on one side of the aisle while her husband was fondling bananas on the other side. I stepped in front of her parked cart to get what I wanted and she yelled "6 feet". I growled at her, but didn't say "are your going to bleach those bananas when you get home" like I wanted to. Keep in mind, this state has had few cases, my county on 5 and no deaths.

    I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine.
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