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Proposed Florida anti-rioting laws "merely a legal excuse to mow down pedestrians"

Posted by $ blarman 4 years, 7 months ago to Legislation
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If you want to protest, stay on the sidewalks. The moment you start blocking the roadways and threatening traffic is when your rights to peaceful assembly cease to exist.


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  • Posted by starznbarz 4 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Stand your ground is well named, it not only legally justifies a person to use deadly force when that person reasonably believes themselves to be in danger of serious bodily injury, or death. It requires you to be in a place you are legally allowed to be, not be the aggressor and it applies if you step in to stop injury, or death of another person. It further puts the burden of proof to show it was not self defense on the prosecutor, not the defendant. It also insulates a legitimate SYG event from civil liability. So, if I`m at an intersection (a place I can legally be) and my vehicle is blocked from leaving, then my vehicle windows are broken out, or attempting to be broken out,
    I am well within my natural rights, recognized by SYG, to defend myself and any passengers with any means at my disposal.
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  • Posted by $ 4 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Legally, how does Stand Your Ground apply to motor vehicles and rioters? Its not that I doubt you, I'm just curious to hear the legal application.
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  • Posted by starznbarz 4 years, 7 months ago
    Here in Florida we already have a legal remedy to blocking traffic and threatening vehicle occupants, its called the Stand Your Ground statute. Works every time its legally deployed.
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  • Posted by $ 4 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    All they really have to do is arrest him and extradite him. I understand Britain still has an open warrant for his arrest on charges of currency manipulation which would end his life in prison...
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  • Posted by $ 4 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, there are lives and property in the balance. But one also has to look at the long-term political ramifications: these rioting cities have been governed by Democrats for 40+ years. Those policies will eventually lead to the very types of unrest, etc. now happening. The choice is to try to fight to preserve them or to allow them fail (to "shrug") and see if the people will recognize the problem as originating in these Democratic policies. If he intervenes, all he does is preserve these Democrats while putting himself up as the whipping dog and tyrant. If he holds back, he can appropriately point at them and tell people they have no one to blame but themselves for continuing to vote for bad policies. While the loss of life and property and livelihoods is indeed tragic, the problem doesn't fix itself except by conscious rejection of the policies and politicians who perpetuate the problem.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 4 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    They should've assigned those people as terrorists, and gone right after Soros money based on evidence of his funding for the activists. Just takes one.

    In this case, the ridiculous and unethical rules for asset seizure could be used for good.
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  • Posted by $ jdg 4 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I've been waiting for Barr to think of that. Soros' fortune needs to be forfeited to the federal treasury before the rest of his family can inherit it and keep making trouble with it. Similarly, slush funds like ActBlue.
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  • Posted by $ jdg 4 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I agree, the President should have sent the Marines to all those cities months ago.

    He says he's held back because federalism -- but federalism is about laws that are optional. No city or state has business using it as an excuse to let people be murdered or their shops burned because some nut group wants to throw a tantrum. Being protected from violent and property crime is a human right. #ThugLivesDontMatter
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  • Posted by $ jdg 4 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Join USCCA.org. They insure their members against the need to hire lawyers after you've defended your life. They also provide lawyer referral.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 4 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Enclosed in a car with all windows up, me dino must remember to remove both hearing aids, stick a finger in my left ear and shoot with my right hand.
    That way, only one ear will go WREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!
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  • Posted by $ 4 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    We need the new laws so that activist judges don't try to twist the existing laws which assume common sense and lawful behavior. The only reason laws exist is to punish the unlawful. It's no surprise that new laws have to be added when the number of immoral acts increases.
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  • Posted by $ gharkness 4 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Reminds me of the days of County Commissioner John Wiley Price in Dallas. He did, I believe, actually use the cross walks and spent his time crossing the street, along with a couple dozen of his friends.
    Verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry Sllllllooooooooooooooowly. And then, oops, he forgot something back on the other side, so they all had to go back. You can see where this is going.

    Not that he was really averse to violence. Lots of threats, broke a police officer's ankle, occasionally beat on a car door, various stuff. Also arrested for things like tax evasion, acts of public corruption. I don't believe he ever went to prison, though no doubt he should have...there may be some benefit to delaying tactics when it comes to trials. But the thing I remember the most was him crossing the street at the crosswalks. The people he caught up in that were, I am sure, absolutely infuriated. Which is what he intended.
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  • Posted by evlwhtguy 4 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Tha sad thing about these protesters is that they rely on the very civilized attitudes of the poor middle class schmucks in whose faces the scream and carry on at....secure in the knowledge that most people are civilized and the very police they are protesting will protect their little candy asses.
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  • Posted by Storo 4 years, 7 months ago
    Why do we need new law for these illegal activities? Are there not already laws on the books that address rioting, looting, burning buildings and property, intimidating or assaulting other people, destroying cars and storefronts, attacking police, and so on? Why do we not just enforce the laws we already have on the books?
    I applaud DeSantis for trying to do something, but I see no purpose in passing a law that reinforces the illegality of something that’s already illegal.
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  • Posted by $ gharkness 4 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Well, I agree....surely no one in their right mind goes to these places on purpose! I know I don't. Every once in a while, though, one gets surprised and of course it's a good idea to be prepared. I fully expect at some point one of these rioters will set a vehicle on fire with people in it. Actually, I'm kind of surprised they haven't (yet). Horrific!
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  • Posted by rtpetrick 4 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    One way to avoid the shootee from showing up the next day with his mouth-piece is......to make your shots more accurate.
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  • Posted by rtpetrick 4 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Times have changed and your mild mannered husband has the proper attitude. I never leave home unarmed because I can't afford to take the risk for my wife and myself. He shouldn't either.
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