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So Tightens the Totalitarian Grip

Posted by $ Thoritsu 4 years, 2 months ago to Legislation
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A new House Bill has been introduced: The Firearms Licensing and Registration Act". Mental health exams, insurance, various types of firearms are singled out.


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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 4 years, 2 months ago
    There are roughly 100M gun owners, and not all of them conservatives. Most will disregard the law, realizing that enforcement will be impossible. Most law enforcement will ignore or defy orders to enforce it, and those few that do will encounter resistance.

    The question is whether or not this proposed law will trigger serious resistance if passed. The more damaging effort is likely to be waiving gun manufacturers' protection against being sued. That alone could destroy the American arms manufacturing industry. As usual with such efforts, it will likely inspire replacement by smuggling and domestic production of "ghost" guns and ammunition.

    An alternative is improvements in airgun technology. These unregulated weapons are now capable of taking down big game, with some being credible sniper weapons, much quieter than even suppressed conventional firearms. Quick change compressed air "magazines" and projectile chargers could make these as effective as the feared "assault" weapons Biden seeks to ban.
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  • Posted by $ 4 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I wish. NH has no carry license. Best bet for me, for now.

    Right now the only issues for me in MA are the pistols list, 10 round mags, and 94-ban rules (excl pre bans). I have an LTC already. Issued town-by-town. My town is very firearm friendly.
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  • Posted by chad 4 years, 2 months ago
    Owning a gun will be impossible for most people. The information on the gun owner will be widely disseminated allowing any agency or representative of an agency to remove weapons for any reason, real or imagined. To infringe means to encroach in any manner no matter how slight. This is complete destruction of the right to protect yourself. It authorizes the infringement of any authority against any citizen. It is time to move, but where?
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  • Posted by $ blarman 4 years, 2 months ago
    Everyone knows this is unConstitutional. But that's a sideline. What this is is just more evidence that the Democrats are intent on destroying the Constitution altogether and re-making this nation into another socialist hellhole. They want to see the nation dragged into civil war while they loot everything. Disgusting that they may just get their wish.
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  • Posted by $ gharkness 4 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    And $800 *edit - for insurance. Most people don't have $8 saved up, much less $800! But then, they probably aren't gun buyers either, if they have no money.
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  • Posted by $ gharkness 4 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You guys need to move to TX or OK. Although TX is doing all it can, the blue people are flooding Texas as fast as they can drive., so I don't know how long it will last.

    OK now has constitutional carry and TX has been reducing the number of requirements for ownership (hubby was a CHL instructor, now can't make a nickel on classes, but he's not sorry!)

    And Oh did I mention? Hubby starts his new job in TEXAS on March 8, and I'll be joining him as fast as I can get the freeze/water damage fixed on the house. So, Texas, we're coming home!
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  • Posted by $ gharkness 4 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    After SCOTUS refusing to even LOOK at any of the election lawsuits this week, how does one have any confidence at all that they would return a proper verdict, if they even looked at it? I'm not sure they'd look at it.
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  • Posted by $ rainman0720 4 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Greg Travis, a comedian, has a routine where he's portraying a street magician. At one point, he says "This one is for the stupid people. You know who you are. Maybe you DON'T know who you are." Hello, Congress?
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  • Posted by $ 4 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, this is very much like the people's republic of MA, although they accept various course for the safety training, including the NRA pistol safety class. There is live fire, but your skill is irrelevant.

    Same issue with domestic (anything) et al. I was at my FFL who was lock-boxing dozens of firearms for a customer. HE was storing them for the guy who was in some kind of dispute with his significant other. Rather than have his potentially taken, he stored them with the FFL. (phuck you AG).

    9mm shows up periodically for ~$0.50/round, here and there. You can buy a couple of boxes occasionally in NH. Target Sports USA has it sometimes, but you MUST sign up for their texts, and immediately (and I really mean immediately) buy when the text shows up. E-mail is too slow, and it will all be gone, every time.
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  • Posted by $ Markus_Katabri 4 years, 2 months ago
    By a Texan no less. What do you suppose the cowardly powers that shouldn’t be pay these no name politicians to introduce this slop? You know she didn’t dream this up alone.
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  • Posted by Dennis55 4 years, 2 months ago
    Here in the People’s Republic of Illinois to own a firearm and buy ammo we must have a FOID. Firearm Owners Identification card. It entails a few bucks and a background check. So before I even think about a purchase my background has been checked. This is administered by Illinois State Police. ISP.
    Years ago we law abiding citizens would be angered when it took 4-6 weeks to get the card. It is now running past 7-9 months depending on who you talked to last.
    Then we have our Concealed Carry License. CCL. It requires a FOID.
    16 hours of classroom. Actual live fire scoring on the range. $200 for the classes, $150 for the actual CCL -wait time right now is 9 months. Again admin by ISP. You can probably read our minds when we jump through all of these hoops just to exercise a right we already have while-the ISP was spending their time enforcing our gov restaurant closures for covid.
    One of the main things I learned in the classes was all of the options the government already has to confiscate firearms. Not radicals grousing about the government this or the gov that but actual on the book infringements.
    If your girl friend boy friend ex spouse tells the authorities you’re nuts then you’re nuts and the guns go away.
    They have the right (HIPPA?) to obtain medical records. If you tell your doc you’ve been feeling blue. Bye bye guns. This is not a crazy guy running from black helicopters. These laws are already there.
    Anybody here try to buy any 9mm ammo lately? The most popular caliber in the WORLD!
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  • Posted by $ 4 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Interesting observation. Maybe they have to pass the test to be in Congress. Their version should include a section on the constitution, proctored by Hillsdale Univ.
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  • Posted by Dennis55 4 years, 2 months ago
    Couple observations.
    It’s going to be easier to run for Congress than it is to own a firearm.
    As long as we are checking mental health background maybe we check the mental health of Congress. But that would be moot. My favorite Mark Twain -let’s say you’re an idiot. Let’s say you’re a member of Congress-but I repeat myself.
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  • Posted by $ 25n56il4 4 years, 2 months ago
    I told you so, they announced this on Sunday. Not a business day! Sneaky.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 4 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I have no confidence in any of them.
    I almost hope it passes and incites a military coup. The political class all need their necks stretched.
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  • Posted by $ 4 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It is just a bunch of red tape and a Federal License. The real problem with this (other than it being unconstitutional and hypocritical) is what changes come later.
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  • Posted by $ 4 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'm hoping it doesn't pass, but bet the House does pass it. Hoping the Senate kills it, but if not, that SCOTUS does. SCOTUS might have to look at this.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 4 years, 2 months ago
    Yeah, I heard about this bill. I understand it's gotten legs, unlike similar efforts in the past. This one may go quite a ways through the system.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 4 years, 2 months ago
    Reply: Firing squad for the sponsors.
    They know its unconstitutional and they are in violation of their sacred oath to defend the constitution. Their acts are and continue to be treason.
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