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This is not a vaccine ....it is an irreversible genetic modification.

Posted by Dobrien 4 years ago to Education
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I have read that the mRNA shot does not fit the CDC’s definition of a vaccine. Of course it is a medical trial. Albeit an unethical trial. What a the long term effects? How many dead so far? How many injuries from it are reported? Are bad side effects being reported or swept under the rug so to speak?


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  • Posted by handyman 4 years ago in reply to this comment.
    CDC reports US death from all causes in the past 3 years as follows: 2018: 2,839,205; 2019: 2,854,838; 2020 (preliminary): 3,358,814. The difference between 2019 and 2020 is 503,976 - about the number being attributed to COVID. If you look at other past years, you'll see that 2020 is clearly an outlier. Seems about right.
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  • Posted by 4 years ago in reply to this comment.
    mRNA derived vaccines have not been around for decades. Moderna failed the safety tests with animals on all its past attempts to develop treatments.The tin-foil hats comment indicates a bit of brainwashing that you suffer from.
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  • Posted by VetteGuy 4 years ago in reply to this comment.
    hmm. According to the Harvard Health Blog:

    "Never before have mRNA vaccines — such as the two-dose Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna vaccines that have now received emergency use authorization from the FDA — been approved for use in any disease."

    This matches several other sources I have seen stating that mRNA is a new vaccine technology. So ... I guess your Hep-B story needs a little clarification.
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  • Posted by TheRealBill 4 years ago in reply to this comment.
    "You can't imagine how much bleeping damage anaesthesia does to your immune system. "

    I dunno, I probably can given what we've learned about what various things and medications do to the gut biome - which has significant cascading effects. That said, I am curious about the damaging effects of anesthesia. Any good starting places/papers for a non-ignoramus you can recommend?
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  • Posted by TheRealBill 4 years ago in reply to this comment.
    While I lament the lack of accurate information being broadcast, in fairness it isn't like the people have been demanding it.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 4 years ago in reply to this comment.
    I thought it was around 9% being covid related of the total deaths on the CDC site further down the page...haven't paid attention lately.

    But still, average yearly deaths from all causes seems to be right on the mark with no "Extra" deaths showing up.
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  • Posted by Demetrius 4 years ago in reply to this comment.
    I contracted Covid 19 very early on and I felt NOTHING. Not so much as a sniffle. I was astounded when I was told that I had the antibodies and I insisted that the results were wrong. .Second test, same results. I am a grandfather and deeply embarrassed by this wimpy generation. On the other hand, let them get the pointless vaccine and let them all die from it. The world will be better off with a lot less sissies and idiots.
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  • Posted by Demetrius 4 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Please provide us with your own professional qualifications regarding virology, immunology and epidemiology that allow you to cast aspersions on his man's assertions....we're waiting.
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  • Posted by VetteGuy 4 years ago in reply to this comment.
    You speak as though you have expertise and evidence in this area. Expound please.

    My main concern is that we don't know what long term effects these mRNA treatments may cause. My wife is getting the J&J vaccine. I am holding off until more time passes to determine if the risks of the vaccine outweigh the risk of the disease. So far I am not convinced.
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  • Posted by lrshultis 4 years ago in reply to this comment.
    One estimate for the number of Covid19 deaths is from the UN's estimate for total US deaths without the pandemic as 8.88 per 1000 for 2020. The CDC gave an preliminary estimate of 3100000 total deaths in 2020. That would indicate that about

    3100000 - 330000000 / 1000 * 8.88 =169600

    deaths might have been caused by Covid19 in 2020.
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  • Posted by lrshultis 4 years ago
    What did Jon Rappoport mean by

    “[i]n general, so-called contagious diseases are caused, not by germs, but by IMMUNE SYSTEMS THAT ARE TOO WEAK TO FIGHT OFF THOSE GERMS”
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  • Posted by fivedollargold 4 years ago
    Fivedollargold's marital spouse received Moderna vax and hasn't sprouted additional horns or assumed room temperature yet. He got his 1st Moderna vax yesterday. Spoke in 2nd person for 18 hours but he is back to normal today.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 4 years ago in reply to this comment.
    About ten years ago at a conference I spoke before the three main materials engineering textbook authors about my nanotech program. One of them asked whether we should include biological failure mechanisms in the failure mechanisms section of his book. I asked, "Why hasn't that been done already? I have been teaching that for a few years." So he asked me to write a couple of pages for his textbook. That was what I talked about today. You can't imagine how much bleeping damage anaesthesia does to your immune system. My mom went in for breast cancer surgery and came out allergic to shellfish and strawberries.
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  • Posted by Ben_C 4 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Yep. When I was in school the cell mediated response wasn't even defined. It was all humoral immunity. What you are doing is cutting edge and way too cool. I am armed and dangerous and know just enough to get my butt in trouble.
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  • Posted by chad 4 years ago
    Anything can have side unintended side effects. The people who invented the vaccine do have ulterior motives that are not in the best interests of the public. That alone is enough for me not to trust its intended results. I suspect its bad but do not have the resources to determine for certain.
    The use of violence to restrict movement, group gatherings, interpersonal activities, religious ceremonies, interaction of any kind, and telling people where they can go and when is universal throughout every country, this indicates something nefarious is afoot and being driven by those who would control rather than let people be free.
    I will not participate. The lack of support from one individual may not be enough to effect a change, but I refuse to live under another's discretionary rule.
    Behavior indicates more than what is claimed. If the police claim they will protect people and their rights but always protect the states usurpations they are not to be trusted.
    When police willingly show up to remove a mother and her children from an empty playground, beat up a man on a bus for not wearing a mask, remove people from a church because there are 'too many' and refuse to prevent mobs destroying property and killing and harming others you know they are not to be trusted to do what is moral and are willing to do whatever they are told.
    This is an indication that moral, free and objective people should not trust those who support these activities. There is some resistance. Those who would live free are few in number and it seems it has always been so.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 4 years ago in reply to this comment.
    I was being facetious, and yes, all viruses and vaccines make you a GMO if they do what they achieve to do. Not all viruses succeed, of course. Trust me, I know immunology quite well. I taught about phagocytes this AM and about transfection in a different class last Tuesday. Anything that is trying to insert DNA or RNA into the nucleus of a cell is trying to turn you into a GMO, with or without your consent.

    Old school vaccines do more than activate your T and B cells (i.e. adaptive immune response). My research is in co-opting the immune response to optimize tissue engineering.
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  • Posted by $ 25n56il4 4 years ago
    Very interesting post. Two of my closest friends have taken their 2nd vaccine and both experienced rather dramatic reactions. However, I believe they are both going to be okay. They are both Diabetic. PS: I had the virus and my doc advised against the test and the vaccine. He doesn't trust either of them. N
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  • Posted by Ben_C 4 years ago in reply to this comment.
    No. The mRNA vaccine alters your DNA and makes you a GMO. Old school vaccine (and the J&J version) causes your T & B cells so say WTF are you and why are you here? GTF out of my body, Here, let me introduce you to my phagocyte friends, It is the normal immune response to any outside pathogen,. Your DNA is not altered. My view is that the key is to keep your immune system busy. Germaphobe mom's are doing more harm than good. Busy B cells are always looking for outsiders. And in my line of work they work overtime. I can't remember the last time I had a cold or flu. Well. yes I can, December of 1968 I had the Hong Kong flu. Recovered nicely and not much since. My two cents worth.
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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 4 years ago
    When asked if I am taking the vaccine...

    I tell everyone, I am waiting for the 30 year safety data, first! And it's true!

    I will be driving from FL to MI just to not set foot on Delta!
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 4 years ago in reply to this comment.
    The blood clots are an issue with this vaccine. Got my neighbor's mother. A lot of these people are dead when they hit the floor. At least it's quick...
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  • Posted by $ blarman 4 years ago
    My wife and I are not going to get the shot. My wife's high school friend just died from a blood clot - a complication of the "vaccine." Her former lunch lady also died only two days after getting the shot and being in perfect health despite being a centegenarian. Her sister nearly died after getting it - the doctors had to give her stiff antibiotics and pump 11 pounds of fluids out of her abdomen.

    According to my calculations, those under 50 are at a higher risk of death from the "vaccine" than they are from the virus itself. That's not hyperbole at all, but simple fact when one considers that the numbers of actual deaths due to the virus are only 5% of that 550K number they keep throwing around.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 4 years ago
    Aren't all viruses and vaccines irreversible genetic modifications? If the left took this as seriously as they do genetically modified food (particularly corn), then I might take them more seriously.
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