Where does John Durham go from here?
Michael Sussmann has been indicted for lying to the FBI general counsel James Baker during a September 2016 meeting where he provided to Baker materials and information purported to link the Trump Organization with Russian entity Alfa Bank. In order to bolster the credibility of his claims, Sussmann told Baker he was acting on his own and not for any clients.
This was a lie – Sussmann was acting on behalf of a tech executive and the Hillary Clinton campaign. According to Special Counsel John Durham, Sussmann would repeat this lie on February 9, 2017 to two employees of another government agency (“Agency-2” in the indictment; possibly CIA).
The more interesting parts of the Sussmann indictment have to do with the orchestrated effort by Sussmann, the Clinton Campaign, a tech executive (identified as Rodney Joffe), their team of partisan researchers, and Fusion GPS to smear the Trump Organization – and thus candidate Trump – as having a “purported secret channel of communications” with Alfa Bank (a Russian bank). The highlights include:
E-mails among the Tech Executive and the researchers stating how “it would be possible to “fill out a sales form on two websites, faking the other company’s email address in each form,’ and thereby cause them ‘to appear to communicate with each other in DNS.’”
Internal doubts about the Trump Organization/Alfa Bank allegations: “we cannot technically make any claims that would fly public scrutiny.”
Concerns over disclosing how they came to their conclusions: “Do you realize that we will have to expose every trick in our bag to even make a very weak association?”
Importantly, there is a discussion of how they hid their doubts about their own work in order to present a more damning narrative for FBI review. Durham points to their internal e-mails stating: the Alfa Bank allegations were a “red herring” that should be “ignored”; that the allegations would “not fly in eyes of public scrutiny.” That describes a conspiracy.
On another point, significant groundwork had to be laid to prepare the Sussmann indictment. This would include, at a minimum:
E-mails records from the Tech Executive, the research group, and Sussmann.
Perkins Coie billing records.
Perkins Coie records (notes, etc.) relating to calls and meetings relating to Alfa Bank.
Grand jury testimony and corresponding subpoenas for evidence.
I add that the indictment’s description of the Alfa Bank conspiracy puts into context October 2020 reporting from The New Yorker, which said “Durham’s agents have summoned some of the same computer scientists to testify before a grand jury.” More interesting is this discussion that Durham’s team was:
“exploring a potential criminal charge – presumably against Max and Tea Leaves [those involved in the Alfa Bank hoax] – for giving false information to the government.”
The “false information” would be the Alfa Bank research - falsified by those tasked to create the Trump/Alfa Bank connections. At a minimum, there are false statement or potential obstruction charges (18 USC 1503) for the Alfa Bank conspirators. Their collective actions put them at risk for conspiracy charges as well. And as we have noted, there is also the potential for charges relating to the misappropriation/misuse of classified or proprietary government data.
As to the conspiracy, we believe there is much Durham didn’t say. There were working drafts of the Alfa Bank documents sent among Fusion GPS employees and outside contractor Edward Baumgartner.Let us also look to other potential criminal charges: FBI employees, Fusion GPS (Christopher Steele and Glenn Simpson), and Igor Danchenko.
The Sussmann indictment doesn’t mean Durham is finished. There is still Durham’s focus “on the activities of the Crossfire Hurricane investigation within the FBI.” This would include Durham’s review of the FBI’s disclosures (more accurately, “lies”) to the FISA court in support the Carter Page warrants. Just imagine the internal discussions of the FBI personnel who prepared the FISA warrants with false information or information that had “no supporting documentation.”
With that in mind, recall this report from The Wall Street Journal on August 13, 2021, which states Durham was:
“Presenting evidence to a grand jury and preparing a lengthy report expected to be completed in the coming months, according to people familiar with the matter.”
“Examining potential criminal charges against several lower-level FBI employees, and people who aren’t in government, according to people familiar with the matter.”
There is also Durham’s focus on the dossier and the inception of Crossfire Hurricane. The New York Times’ Charlie Savage and Adam Goldman (who broke the Sussmann story) reported in April 2021 that:
Mr. Durham has keyed in on the F.B.I.’s handling of a notorious dossier of political opposition research both before and after the bureau started using it to obtain court permission to wiretap a former Trump campaign adviser in 2016 and 2017.
In that same April 2021 article, the New York Times said Durham was focusing on Igor Danchenko, who served as Christopher Steele’s “primary subsource.” At a minimum, this means inquiry into Danchenko’s lies to the FBI about his contacts with Russian intel.
This was a lie – Sussmann was acting on behalf of a tech executive and the Hillary Clinton campaign. According to Special Counsel John Durham, Sussmann would repeat this lie on February 9, 2017 to two employees of another government agency (“Agency-2” in the indictment; possibly CIA).
The more interesting parts of the Sussmann indictment have to do with the orchestrated effort by Sussmann, the Clinton Campaign, a tech executive (identified as Rodney Joffe), their team of partisan researchers, and Fusion GPS to smear the Trump Organization – and thus candidate Trump – as having a “purported secret channel of communications” with Alfa Bank (a Russian bank). The highlights include:
E-mails among the Tech Executive and the researchers stating how “it would be possible to “fill out a sales form on two websites, faking the other company’s email address in each form,’ and thereby cause them ‘to appear to communicate with each other in DNS.’”
Internal doubts about the Trump Organization/Alfa Bank allegations: “we cannot technically make any claims that would fly public scrutiny.”
Concerns over disclosing how they came to their conclusions: “Do you realize that we will have to expose every trick in our bag to even make a very weak association?”
Importantly, there is a discussion of how they hid their doubts about their own work in order to present a more damning narrative for FBI review. Durham points to their internal e-mails stating: the Alfa Bank allegations were a “red herring” that should be “ignored”; that the allegations would “not fly in eyes of public scrutiny.” That describes a conspiracy.
On another point, significant groundwork had to be laid to prepare the Sussmann indictment. This would include, at a minimum:
E-mails records from the Tech Executive, the research group, and Sussmann.
Perkins Coie billing records.
Perkins Coie records (notes, etc.) relating to calls and meetings relating to Alfa Bank.
Grand jury testimony and corresponding subpoenas for evidence.
I add that the indictment’s description of the Alfa Bank conspiracy puts into context October 2020 reporting from The New Yorker, which said “Durham’s agents have summoned some of the same computer scientists to testify before a grand jury.” More interesting is this discussion that Durham’s team was:
“exploring a potential criminal charge – presumably against Max and Tea Leaves [those involved in the Alfa Bank hoax] – for giving false information to the government.”
The “false information” would be the Alfa Bank research - falsified by those tasked to create the Trump/Alfa Bank connections. At a minimum, there are false statement or potential obstruction charges (18 USC 1503) for the Alfa Bank conspirators. Their collective actions put them at risk for conspiracy charges as well. And as we have noted, there is also the potential for charges relating to the misappropriation/misuse of classified or proprietary government data.
As to the conspiracy, we believe there is much Durham didn’t say. There were working drafts of the Alfa Bank documents sent among Fusion GPS employees and outside contractor Edward Baumgartner.Let us also look to other potential criminal charges: FBI employees, Fusion GPS (Christopher Steele and Glenn Simpson), and Igor Danchenko.
The Sussmann indictment doesn’t mean Durham is finished. There is still Durham’s focus “on the activities of the Crossfire Hurricane investigation within the FBI.” This would include Durham’s review of the FBI’s disclosures (more accurately, “lies”) to the FISA court in support the Carter Page warrants. Just imagine the internal discussions of the FBI personnel who prepared the FISA warrants with false information or information that had “no supporting documentation.”
With that in mind, recall this report from The Wall Street Journal on August 13, 2021, which states Durham was:
“Presenting evidence to a grand jury and preparing a lengthy report expected to be completed in the coming months, according to people familiar with the matter.”
“Examining potential criminal charges against several lower-level FBI employees, and people who aren’t in government, according to people familiar with the matter.”
There is also Durham’s focus on the dossier and the inception of Crossfire Hurricane. The New York Times’ Charlie Savage and Adam Goldman (who broke the Sussmann story) reported in April 2021 that:
Mr. Durham has keyed in on the F.B.I.’s handling of a notorious dossier of political opposition research both before and after the bureau started using it to obtain court permission to wiretap a former Trump campaign adviser in 2016 and 2017.
In that same April 2021 article, the New York Times said Durham was focusing on Igor Danchenko, who served as Christopher Steele’s “primary subsource.” At a minimum, this means inquiry into Danchenko’s lies to the FBI about his contacts with Russian intel.
That's the way I'd do it anyway...
Quick answer-
Accusation should accompany evidence.
If no evidence provided, then innocent.
Thinking more-
Who is Deepstate? Ok they, nearly all of them, are in one of the several conspiracies running at the moment, but many are not conspirators in the meaning of that they communicate between themselves and consciously work to promote whatever it is.
The kind of people I have in mind would be senior university administrators, medics in government setting policy rather than working in medicine, defense industry lobbyists rather than military planning. Many are named in a book, 'Climate Change, Storm in a Teacup' I am working on a review.
Several conspiracies: climate/environment, wuhu, election, China, UN power grabbing, etc.
But are all those just a part of one big one? In my opinion- no. (But I have been wrong before). I think they appeal to the same woolly thinking, have solutions requiring collectivism at the cost of individualism, the same fairly narrow group benefit, so attract the same people and each solution supports the others.
A person in it, all or one, can be driven by the bribe, or by need to keep their job or keep working, rather than by what may be the driver of a conspiracy that their actions support. As well, an election worker can be swayed to fakery by loyalty to the team rather than by saving the planet or world domination by some elite.
FFA says following treasonous orders is still treason - yes. Hang them for the action, analyze motivations at leisure.
At the same time there are the other side theories- Gnomes of Zurich, Rockerfeller/Rothschild, Zionists, Vatican, lizard people, Britain's royal family (who I reckon cannot tie shoe laces), Trump supporting extreme right-wingers is popular with the gov of Victoria (Australia) at the moment.
Michael Sussman is a former DOJ lawyer and former (as of 09/16/21) partner at Perkins Coie
Perkins Coie was the law firm representing the Hillary Clinton campaign and the DNC
Perkins Coie paid Fusion GPS to create the narrative that Trump was colluding with Russia
Separately, Michael Sussman, used “Tech Executive-1” from “Internet Company-1”, which I believe are Shawn Henry and Crowdstrike, to create narrative regarding Trump’s ties to Russia through the Alfa Bank story
Michael Sussman contracted CrowdStrike with the DNC for their cyber services for the DNC Hack
CrowdStrike used very shaky evidence to claim Russia hacked the DNC emails, again creating narrative of Trump’s ties to Russia
A former NSA technical director studied the “hack” and claimed the DNC data was downloaded to a thumb drive
Multiple data points including Assange himself lead to a deeper story behind what happened with Seth Rich
CrowdStrike played an integral role in creating the narrative that Trump had ties to Russia. I believe they also played an integral role in a few more recent events as well.
by Team BonginoPosted: September 21, 2021
Former Department of Justice Chief of Staff Kash Patel appeared on “America’s Newsroom” to discuss Special Counsel John Durham’s probe into Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign, telling host Dana Perino that it’s developing into a “very well laid-out conspiracy charge” against those involved.
This comes following Durham indictment of Michael Sussmann on a false-statements count for his alleged lying to the FBI. The specific statement Sussman made to the FBI under question is in regards to a client’s identity from when he allegedly advanced bogus claims about mythical secret communications between the Trump Organization and Russia’s Alfa Bank before the 2016 election. It was during a meeting with former FBI Counsel James Baker in 2016 that Sussmann allegedly “relayed data and analysis from cybersecurity researchers who claimed that odd internet data was evidence of back-channel communications.”
Susman is a partner at Perkins Coie, the law firm heavily relied upon by Hillary Clinton and the DNC. Perkins Coie also has ties to Fusion GPS, the firm that hired former British spy Christopher Steele, the man behind the discredited “Steele dossier” that compiled fictitious connections between Trump and the Russians.
Watch what Patel had to say below:
https://rumble.com/vms93l-kash-patel-...
And yes...the mass of Americans are vapid morons. They will soon outnumber us and if that doesn't work, the illegal's will tip the balance. .
"...what he saw was a bank in Moscow that kept irregularly pinging a server registered to the Trump Organization..." Oddly, my home computer gets regularly pinged by addresses traceable to Russia, Ukraine, and a few other places. One particularly persistent and annoying ping was a legitimate German company through an office in NY (I believed their address was being high-jacked because legitimate companies don't do this crap). I contacted them to check for a security problem and gave them a trace. They thanked me profusely and the pinging from their origin stopped.
There are many more like this. I don’t expect anyone to say dobrien was right but I will know.
Now the trick is for him to keep working until Trump gets back in, so he can safely go after the more serious bad guys -- maybe with help from the testimony in the lower level guy's trial.
What matters tho' is that it is not the mass who will determine the future.
It is clear, I hope not just to me, that many see thru this nonsense we all are suffering under.
It may be a conspiracy, or a set of synergistic conspiracies, or just a coming together of vast incompetence.
Whatever, there are good people who see it and are working to set it right.
So many of Deepstate and that ilk, are not in any conspiracy, they are going with the flow, they want to keep in with their side, they are signalling group membership. When the flow changes direction that gang will reverse, changing sides is easy for them.
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