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Poll: Only 25% of Americans Think Electric Cars Are Practical | CNSNews

Posted by $ AJAshinoff 3 years, 6 months ago to Culture
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As-if this is any surprise. How can any country having rolling blackouts in its states expect to reliably power and recharge millions of vehicles, particularly in winter.

Don't misunderstand me, I'm all for new tech solutions. But the waste involved in making just the batteries and the demand on our infrastructure as they phase to anemic and paltry solar is destined to be nothing more than another money-pit were politicians and corporations will get richer AND the American people will be force into public transportation and all the restrictions associated with it.


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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 3 years, 6 months ago
    I don't understand how they're practical, but fortunately everyone doesn't have to use the same transportation. I'm surprised how many I see plugged into the charging stations at work and in other locations.

    I travel by bike or bus primarily, but a few times I've been in an electric-powered taxi, they seemed to have amazing acceleration. I think one driver had "ludicrous mode" enabled.

    It seems like most cabs here are Telsas. I don't know how they keep them charged. It seems like it would be impractical.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 3 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hydrogen that you can create right in the car (just add water), would be the best vehicle for the future...no computers either...carry an extra set of points just in case!
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  • Posted by ohiocrossroads 3 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Batteries are still orders of magnitude away from where they need to be to supplant hydrocarbons for energy storage for mobile applications. I just checked it out last weekend. Current state of the art energy storage density on a mass basis is 5.4MJ in a 36kg battery pack: so .15MJ/kg. Energy storage density of gasoline is 43MJ/kg. This is 287 times (43/.15) what state of the art Lithium Ion batteries can do. I'll grant that an EV can go 2.5 times as far on a given quantity of stored energy as a combustion car, but that still leaves the effective energy storage off by a factor of 115. EV advocates are always saying how much batteries have improved, but they always leave out the energy density comparison to technology that we know works.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 3 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    True, but poorly understood, and the reason the present, people, jealous of the wealthy, seek to bring them down, when nothing of the sort will happen.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 3 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You are kidding right? Easier to recover an ICE from flooding than an EV? Not a chance. Again though, this is a corner case, not mainstream practicality.

    200K miles is another thing. No doubt you are right, the batteries won't last. However, a majority of people don't keep their cars that long.

    Another thing missing from this discussion is that people don't really want to drive anymore. Driverless cars are coming, and will displace a majority of transportation. Once this happens, $/mile will be far more important than car life, and charging will be irrelevant. Cars will just go charge (or fill up) between rides.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 3 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, but just the ones with a flammable electrolyte (most energy dense). LiFePO4 don't do that.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 3 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yeah, maybe some chlorine generation. That is how we do it on submarines. Not going to short catastrophically though.
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  • Posted by term2 3 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    for the oligarchs, the roads will be less crowded, so their trips to the french laundry will be easier.
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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 3 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    In brackish water, where both + and - contacts are submerged... Wouldn't hydrolysis take place between the electrode/anode?

    Other than that. THANK YOU. I learned something!
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 3 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Be careful.

    Battery ratings have increased a factor of three and price has dropped a factor of five in the last 10 years. This is why hand tools have almost fully transitioned from cords to batteries, even many pneumatics.

    There is a clear technical path and investment appetite to further improvements.
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  • Posted by ohiocrossroads 3 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You don't have a choice about the subsidy. EV makers don't need to make money on their car sales. They make out like bandits on "Carbon Credits" from the government on every one they sell. This is the real form of the EV subsidy. Carbon tax on combustion cars, transferred to EV car makers. Kind of like the Steel Unification Plan. Penalize the productive. Reward the useless.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 3 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Of course, as long as the Oligarchs standard of living is unaffected. Maybe they can even get 20-30 servants like before too.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 3 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Exactly! No damn subsidies! People no longer understand what freedom is, and somehow think capitalism compels them to serve a rich master! Nothing could be further from the facts. Nothing has more democracy than capitalism!!!
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  • Posted by term2 3 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    by the way, biden seems to want us to go back in tim where the standard of living was less and people didnt leave home so much
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  • Posted by term2 3 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    thats the nice thing about capitalism. If you want one and someone will make an EV for you, go for it. I dont want to subsidize it for you though
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  • Posted by term2 3 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Arent batteries chemical in nature? You are saying that adding random water to the chemical mix inside a battery wont affect it?
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 3 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Definitely not a problem when they are wet. This is a cartoon, like electrocuting someone with a car battery, not a real issue.
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  • Posted by term2 3 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Just remember that leftists just want ideology, not results. If electric cars arent practical, it will be blamed on the mfrs and up to them to fix things if they want to stay in business (and we consumers pay for the r and d to fix things.)
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 3 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I like "gold carts". Do you have one;)

    I have all kinds of friends with EVs. Never had an issue charging. I have a generator and a 1,500 gallon propane tank.

    If you don't want one, don't have one. If your main reason is lack of charging stations or concern over electrical outages, that is up to you. It is of marginal value in my opinion, and not a matter of practicality. I haven't driven more than 200 miles in four years and it may have been 10 .
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