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US Marines get ‘dominated’ by British colleagues in desert exercise

Posted by freedomforall 3 years, 5 months ago to Government
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"The UK’s Royal Marines have reportedly handed a decisive defeat to their US counterparts during exercises in California’s Mojave Desert, with the Americans losing so badly they asked for a time-out halfway into the mock battle.
A commando of Royal Marines deployed to the US Marine Corps facility in Twentynine Palms last month for Green Dagger 2021 exercises, among other things in order to test a new force structure. After training with Dutch, Emirati and Canadian colleagues, they were pitted against the USMC in a five-day fighting exercise.

The 40 Commando proclaimed on Saturday that they were “victorious,” offering no further details.


According to the Telegraph, however, the Royal Marines “dominated” their USMC counterparts. US forces were so badly mauled after the first two days, they reportedly asked for a “reset.” At one point, the 40 Commando’s “kill board” showed almost every US asset as either destroyed or rendered inoperable.

The exercise area stretched over 3,500 square kilometers (1,350 square miles) of desert and mountains, including urban settings populated by actors playing civilians. The British force began in control of 20% of the area, and ended up commanding 65% at the end of the battle. They reportedly succeeded by targeting the US headquarters and its valuable equipment, “paralyzing” the Americans’ counterattacks. British artillery and fighter jets helped the commandos to advance, and a last-minute USMC counterattack was repelled."


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  • Posted by Lucky 3 years, 5 months ago
    I had to check that!
    The event is well reported elsewhere with the same news, eg:
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021...

    The Telegraph makes a few more points:
    -The UK marines have been doing much reassessment such as do they have role when anti-ship missiles can hit a target hundreds of miles from a coastline, just getting to the fight will soon be problematic.
    -These exercises are taken seriously, close to stresses in real combat,
    mistakes happen, people are hurt – occasionally, tragically, killed – but there are no points for second place in a real war so corners are not cut in training.
    -While the British commandos enjoyed early success, their maxim is “train hard, fight easy” – only the most foolhardy armchair general would disparage the incredible men and women of the US Marine Corps
    .

    Reading between the lines, the US marine people are good but maybe there is a lack of serious strategic and capability planning at high level.
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  • Posted by mhubb 3 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    we owned them one for
    1776
    War of 1812
    WW!
    WW2
    Falklands (no US equipment/information, they would have likely lost)

    and it was likely only 3 Marines, with M16s, vs British Marines with Lee Endfield 303s, fighting at 1,000 years only, no closer
    (303 British vs 5.56 at 1,000 yards, ask someone that know about how pathetic 5.56 is)
    /s
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