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Common core nightmare

Posted by H6163741 10 years, 7 months ago to Education
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My daughter is in the top 1% of students her age. Imagine my shock when I discovered that she does not know how to do 'long' multiplication or division! (She is in 5th grade!). It's really frightening what Common core has done to our education system!


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  • Posted by LetsShrug 10 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Be vocal. Talk to other parents. Drop in. Question your child about assignments. Talk to your daughter about letting you know what daily assignments are about. They will be slipping in liberal politics into every subject; writing, math, history ... even games. Watch for it. Also, reinforce always asking question. Never stop asking until they give an answer that makes total sense. I think homeschooling is the answer.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No; I have sadly been trusting that perfect grades in a "great school" meant that she was actually learning. This came up when we had to sign her homework (which, by the way, the teacher doesn't review, or even collect, for that matter.)
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  • Posted by 10 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It's just like Return of the Primitive. Let's keep everyone at the same level, regardless of their skills, intelligence or motivation.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    What you said about "managing" and "getting by" are so true. That's what people tell me if I bring up these issues. My response is, "Why should she have to just get by? She deserves the best education she can get!" (No fistfights yet....)
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  • Posted by 10 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You don't know me, but trust me- There will definitely be a serious discussion with all involved. Unfortunately, I live in Los Angeles, so there is little, if any, chance that they will disagree with obamagod, but maybe I can at least push for some more intelligence-appropriate work. Mostly, we are just going to have to keep a much better eye on what she is doing, and probably supplement A LOT.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I should have said she scored 99.9 on whatever test it is that LAUSD uses to measure "giftedness." Also, she always gets perfect grades. I have been looking at middle schools since last year. Unfortunately the pickings are slim, thanks to our idiot president. Basically, we have one very exclusive all- girls school (Can you say, "financial aid?") and one charter that is not too inconveniently located. The sad thing is that there is a highly gifted magnet middle school just a few miles away. Unfortunately, only part of the school is a magnet,and they do teach common core, so that's out. We started working on the ISEE tonight, and so far I am relieved that her reasoning skills are very strong. It's probably just a matter of 'fine tuning' the math. Sorry to ramble. This was just a complete shock to me. Feeling a little better now. I will definitely have a talk with her teacher and principal. Unfortunately, the school she currently attends is "one of the best in Los Angeles" (10 on greatschools) so finding a better public school is probably not an option. At this point, it seems best to focus on middle school while supplementing what she is doing in elementary. Do you agree?
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  • Posted by $ winterwind 10 years, 7 months ago
    As someone who was where she is, I know this story well. In my case, it has a mostly happy ending. But I have some questions, if you don't mind.
    What does it mean when you say she is in the top 1%? Certainly not that she can do the most situps! How was this measured, and by whom?
    I will caution you that sometimes the way statistics lie about students is to measure performance rather than ability. In many circumstances, a student who works like the dickens and is not that smart will test well. Zenphamy's question was great. How, _of your own knowledge_, do you know that she cannot do long division or multiplication, and what does that say about her general intelligence?
    Until I know more [I taught brilliant students, some her age, fun stuff for 20+ years], I have something for you to consider. If we're talking about IQ, even leaving aside the fact that the tests become less accurate the further one goes from the center, Mensa [the high IQ organization] starts giving you membership at IQ 125, or 25 points off the norm - the top 2%.
    If you were dealing with a student who was 35 points off the norm the other way [that is, an IQ score, if you could get one, of 65] they would have specialists crawling all over them to "Help them function in the real world" - and kids like your daughter are, at best, ignored. Why? Because everybody knows they'll "make it". They'll "manage". They can help the slower students. gag.
    Start looking into your options NOW. Online schools, charter schools [if your state has them], private schools, homeschooling.
    I believe that public schools destroy every single thing they touch - students, teachers, parents, taxpayers, everything. I really want to say "Grab you daughter and RUN!!!!"
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 10 years, 7 months ago
    Please confront her teacher, principal, school board...ALL of them. They will get away with mind murder if we don't start making demands. And don't let them convince you otherwise. Please.
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  • Posted by Solver 10 years, 7 months ago
    It's like the public schools are teaching that computers and politicians solve problems for you.
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 10 years, 7 months ago
    Have you given her 'tests' requiring long x or div to see how she solves such a problem?
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