How 'bout 'starting' with unwavering principles? Reagan should have KNOWN better, it was obvious. "You first, prove you'll secure the border...do it. Until it's done, I won't believe you'll do it."

YES! yes, yes, yes, oh go, you rock!
Is there an adult in the world who uses math to pass a test as a regular activity? Uh, no.
We already know that people learn things better when THEY are interested in the subject the learning is part of.
oh, good for you!!!!

Perhaps, but you have to start somewhere.

I teach my kids their math. I don't rely on the school to do it. Not enough teachers know math well enough to teach it. That's one reason Common Core took hold so easily. Many teachers, it seems to me, were looking for a lifeline - something to grab onto, even if it sucks.

I write homework assignments for my kids using mathematics in subjects they are interested in. It is working well.

https://www.khanacademy.org/

Wow. That was unreal! I think the worst were the girls who said, "I don't believe in math!" (Although, now that I think if it, that is pretty standard liberal thinking - It's only true if I want it to be...). Nice examples for our daughters. (NOT!)

I thought it was 165?

I am still amazed that BO got a second term. We all know he cheated (ie Lois Lerner, birth certificate, etc) but apparently the majority of the American public is too stupid and/or uninvolved to care...

How sad. I mean, it's no surprise that the government is defining what should be taught, rather than listening to the students, teachers and parents. I'll bet you would have been a great teacher. I have a friend who teaches 2nd grade and she has refused to use the common core methods. So far, no one has called her on it... She has been teaching for 20 years, and now some bozos come up with an untested education plan that she is ordered to follow. Ridiculous.

I am completely with you. We were working on a word problem, and I actually had to go through it several times before I figured it out.

I think there are still a lot of good teachers out there. Unfortunately, their hands are tied by things like common core, tenure and uninvolved (or overinvolved) parents.

Dumbed down and indoctrinated...

Thanks for the info, and congrats on doing so well. LA city college (i think) has an early start program that we are looking into. I think the age range is 12-17, though. The private school we are looking at also seems to have a very personalized & rigorous program. Can't put all our eggs in that basket,though. God forbid she doesn't get in for some reason and has to go to an LAUSD middle school!

125 was not a mensa admitting score in the 70s;
they must have changed, or the test has. -- j

Awesome, thanks! I assume this is online?

surprised, you shouldn't be. the education system that exists in the usa IS simply dumbing down each generation so each generation is taught (?) by the previously dumbed down generation.

Khan Academy! Lessons on all sorts of things (particularly math, from basic addition all the way through super advanced stuff) You can sign you kid up, they play the lessons like games, and you can get a coach account to tract the progress.

Oh, did I mention it's free? (Bill Gates dumped a bunch of money on them, so not free as in lunch, more like free as in a producer willfully gave because it made him happy to do so)

Boy, this is a tough crowd, we have been using since before I ever heard of CC. I guess if I was running an online education site I may try to develop a connection to what most people think is important. Just get on the site and the level of math you understand, at it will challenge you with more complex subject matter for the rest of your life.

Is it a problem?

Kudos to that. I love the Khan Academy.

Long division is very practical and is also in the 4th grade Common Core standards. See standard 4.NBT.B.6.

Common Core standard 4.NBT.B.5 states in part, "Multiply a whole number of up to four digits by a one-digit whole number, and multiply two two-digit numbers, using strategies based on place value and the properties of operations." In other words how to do long multiplication.

Common Core standard 4.NBT.B.6 states in part, "Find whole-number quotients and remainders with up to four-digit dividends and one-digit divisors, using strategies based on place value," or in other words know how to do long division.

The 4 at the beginning of the references means that these are a 4th grade level standards.

If students haven't been taught how to do long multiplication and division by the end of the 4th grade, then it is because the school is NOT following the Common Core standards.

If she is in the top 1% then the school is too easy for her, she needs to be challenged. High schools are WAY too easy these days. I was in her same situation in the 10th grade. My state had a post secondary option where you could attend the university of your choice (provided you got accepted of course) instead of high school. I did not have to pay tuition or books because I was a public school student. By the time I was 18 I was halfway done with my bachelors degree. My parents didn't have money to pay to send me to private school, but they did pay taxes as business owners so I took advantage of the program. Its just an idea for you, but I truly think that she needs to be challenged more. Let her take a graduate level course and get a B or C.. she will probably freak out but she will still be miles ahead of her peers and she will really need to give her brain a workout and use all the critical thinking skills she has.

Thanks for the conversation