Should Trump run again, and should we support him?
In the spirit of the old Chinese curse “May you live in interesting times.”, it is interesting that we have such an incompetent administration in the White House, and interesting to watch them stumble around and lie and spin, and bungle so many things important to Americans. So what to do?
It is clear Trump wants to run again, most likely to face Hillary again. But should he?
If one looks back at his 4 years in office, one sees a record of great accomplishments. Whether foreign or domestic, his administration took on seemingly impossible tasks and won.
We had relatively secure borders.
The economy was booming.
Inflation was nil.
Interest rates were low.
Unemployment was at record lows.
We got a COVID vaccine in record time.
Our relationships with other nations greatly improved.
North Korea and Russia were talking to us.
Our trade was greatly improved, and China trade deal renegotiated.
NAFDA was dumped and a new trade agreement signed that was more fair to the US.
So why would we not re-elect this guy? Answer: The media.
We lived through 4years of Trump in the White House with the media nipping at his heels the whole time. Trump never had a real chance to govern without lies, rumors and innuendo following his every step. He not only had to fight the Dumocraps, there were the false Russian collusion charges, the false dossier, the false inditement of Trump staff, lies and misrepresentations galore, false impeachments and an American public divided, rightly or wrongly, as never before.
I support Trump, and I believe that his record and accomplishments will stand up against anyone’s. In addition he has shown that he can get the job done. He deserves a second term. But what concerns me is that the Cabal, the Deep State, and/or his opponents and the media will pick up where they left off in January 2021, and we will have another 4years like his previous 4 years with fabricated lies, distortions and fabricated scandals as then promulgated by a corrupt leftist media and the socialist/communist Dumocrap Party.
So here’s the question; if we know that Trump will be slandered and face the same opposition and baseless accusations as in his previous administration, would you vote for him in 2024?
It is clear Trump wants to run again, most likely to face Hillary again. But should he?
If one looks back at his 4 years in office, one sees a record of great accomplishments. Whether foreign or domestic, his administration took on seemingly impossible tasks and won.
We had relatively secure borders.
The economy was booming.
Inflation was nil.
Interest rates were low.
Unemployment was at record lows.
We got a COVID vaccine in record time.
Our relationships with other nations greatly improved.
North Korea and Russia were talking to us.
Our trade was greatly improved, and China trade deal renegotiated.
NAFDA was dumped and a new trade agreement signed that was more fair to the US.
So why would we not re-elect this guy? Answer: The media.
We lived through 4years of Trump in the White House with the media nipping at his heels the whole time. Trump never had a real chance to govern without lies, rumors and innuendo following his every step. He not only had to fight the Dumocraps, there were the false Russian collusion charges, the false dossier, the false inditement of Trump staff, lies and misrepresentations galore, false impeachments and an American public divided, rightly or wrongly, as never before.
I support Trump, and I believe that his record and accomplishments will stand up against anyone’s. In addition he has shown that he can get the job done. He deserves a second term. But what concerns me is that the Cabal, the Deep State, and/or his opponents and the media will pick up where they left off in January 2021, and we will have another 4years like his previous 4 years with fabricated lies, distortions and fabricated scandals as then promulgated by a corrupt leftist media and the socialist/communist Dumocrap Party.
So here’s the question; if we know that Trump will be slandered and face the same opposition and baseless accusations as in his previous administration, would you vote for him in 2024?
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Life was good under Trump. I'm all orange, baby.
or he does not fight
or mike pense downvoted me
democrat support your right to vote
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ALL OF THEM
As you can probably guess I am not only not a fan of Twit-length one-liners, I consider Twit-length one-liners to be an insult to intellectual discourse. So given that I like to present arguments instead of one-liners, that number is not in the thousands. If that's what you expected, then I'd ask you to contemplate the concept of "quality over quantity" and to familiarize yourself with the results of clicking on any given member's nick. When I look at my list, I myself am surprised at how much I've written on the subject of Trump's foray into Republican politics over the last couple of years.
The intention of my above post - and I think it's crystal clear to anyone willing to read - is not to let this devolve into a High School bull session about "Who would be nice as a new Presidential candidate." The intention of my post is to address the specific topic raised in the opening post. To recap:
"Should Trump run again, and should we support him?"
I presented a short list of what I consider to be must-read preliminary homework on this specific topic, along with my own position on Trump as a leader and on Trump's record of performance over his four-year term.
And so far I haven't seen anyone here address anything I've said, much less indicate they could even be bothered to spend a few minutes reading so much as one of the articles I linked. Instead I see everything from defensive bandwagoneering to excuse-making, and even some juvenile ad hominem potshots of the "you must be Hilary Clinton or Mike Pence" type. (And for the record, it was Trump who selected Pence, not me. WTH)
As I've said elsewhere on this site, if the people here are in agreement with Objectivist philosophy - or at minimum are familiar with its key principles (else I cannot for the life of me understand why they would be here in the first place) - then we are presumably intelligent people selecting political leaders on the basis of their merits as intellectual leaders.
This criterion is distinctly different - nay, the polar opposite - from emotionalistic, bandwagon, beer-hoist-hell-yeah, "Don't you dare bad-mouth Our Guy" juvenility. This latter is a big part of why we've had a thirty-three-year parade of inept buffoons both running for and sitting in the office where the President of the United States should be and should have been. Thirty-three years is a disturbingly long time for the United States to be operating without a President.
As Mr. Bidinotto said in his April 2016 post:
"For decades, every time the GOP put forth some lousy liberal loser, we individualists and constitutionalists were told to put aside our reservations and support him at the polls. It was just a short-term compromise, they told us, because we had to beat the Democrat du jour if we hoped for America to survive until the long term, when we might get better candidates. Well, Donald Trump is the long term that all those short-term, expedient compromises have brought us to."
My position is simple: We can (and must) do better than Trump. Much better. And while no one politician is going to magically right every wrong, we do not have time for another placeholder whose best effort amounts to lame damage-control against the collectivist cult's ceaseless barrage of assaults on humanity. We arguably did not have time for placeholders 33 years ago, when that cipher GHWB tossed out his "read my lips" fakery. Much less for Dole / GWB / Romney / McCain. As I said, clearly, in my previous post, we must have an activist who is at least as radical in innovating steps back to core Americanism as the Demo-Socs are radical in innovating steps to enslave humanity under neo-communism. It's hard to lose when you're unopposed, and so far the collectivists are winning by default - in the form of Trump's inaction, among that of many others.
Putting aside coaldigger's Leftwing-standard backhand swipe (below) at Reagan-as-"actor," obviously there is no single politician who is going to magically right every wrong, and there is no guarantee that any given agenda will succeed. But those facts are not arguments for excusing Trump's refusal to even attempt the kind of aggressive agendas I mentioned in the previous (and in many other posts here at JGO.) The man sat on his complacent hands for four years and let this garbage grow four years more dangerous, when he should've been throwing punches (and draining swamps, to use his un-kept promise,) from January 20, 2017. And he did not.
And on a purely election-performance basis, I'm still scratching my head as to how anyone with a functioning cognitive apparatus could look at a candidate who was too weak to beat an opponent with dementia coupled with a running mate with a dope problem, and say "Oh yeah, that's the guy we need in 2024." Hey, why don't we just dust off Mitt Romney?
So this is a horse-water proposition. I've made what I think is a pretty reasonable request that people set aside the time-span of a standard-issue sitcom to read five sober analyses of Trumpism and of the conflict for leadership within the Republican Party (which persists to this day,) and take a sober, new look at Trump's actual quality as an intellectual leader and as an activist for Republican goals, shorn of personality-cultism, shorn of bandwagoneering, and shorn of the irrelevancy of "He's better than the Democrats."
As Republicans we can - and must - do better than Trump.
The arguments for the "why" are above. But I do not have the time to banter with people who refuse to read them. Debate is a two-way street, and I'm getting a whole lot of "brick wall" here.
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Unfortunately, unless there is either:
(1) a widespread fatal virus that only affects bureaucrats in DC (and corrupt businessmen)
or
(2) a broad successful secession of all the fly-over states into a new republic with strict constitutional principles (and penalties for the corrupt),
there is little chance of this taking hold.
I would love to be wrong about this.
That said, there are two, major red flags from Trump 1.0:
making the feckless Jeff Sessions his AG, who promptly recused himself from the Russiagate investigation, because he promised Al Franken he would do so. We are still living with the Russiagate turmoil, because Sessions didn't put a stop to the whole mess.
giving Fauci a platform and credibility, for becoming the front-man for the Wu Flu fiasco. Instead of easing Fauci aside, with a thank-you and a gentle nudge, Trump deferred to Fauci at every turn. We are still paying the price for that.
If Trump does run in 2024 (Trump 2.0), these are things to consider.
Yeah, he's screwed up a few times, but he's still the best for America to come along in a long time.
You cannot just "tell" people, you have to show them, and Biden is doing that for us. Notice that Trump has yet to concede that he lost in 2020. Some have said, "It's going to be messy. Eat the popcorn and enjoy the show." I agree. Look what's happening. "Atlas Shrugged, Now In Non-fiction!"
Stalin said, it doesn't matter who votes, it matters who counts the votes.
notice President Biden says the same thing.
Makes you want to say, hummmmm
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