IMHO, a dog's gestation period of its life cycle begins with a single cell at conception, same as a humans. Its specialized cell counts in the puppy or dog phases are irrelevant.

Agree

I agree with you Katrinam. I also agree with the premise that many woman vote wrongly. My wife is well cared for by me as I am well cared for by her. She, like you, votes with her head rather than with some false sense of protection. I never tell her how to vote but I know she votes very similarly to the way I vote and she has no use for what the MSM or any others want her to believe. As was said, far too many woman just don't see the full picture and you and my lady are not the norm.

It is going to get to a mess. Soros is going to have his way by driving everyone to the extremes and civil war.

You are right, but it is not.

Two cells, or two thousand cells are not a human life. My dog has WAY more to live for than two cells.

A dog has 530 million brain cells. A fetus doesn't have a brain until ~week 7, and it doesn't function in any meaningful way until the last month. The brain IS consciousness. Life is meaningless without a brain. Any other argument is just religious nonsense, specifically excluded from Government power over people.

Pity me if you chose. It means about as much as a Muslim pitying me for eating pork, or a pacifist, gun control advocate pitying me for having and enjoying firearms. It certainly doesn't validate or support any of the related arguments.

Okay. First, I jumped in to someone else's argument. My mistake. I reacted to you blaming men as a general cause for single mother's plight in life. Sex cannot occur by accident. It requires effort and intent and consent from both parties. There must be responsibility and accountability from both parties. No?

Precisely!! Thank god Republicans will get the House. They should have won it by 30 seats.

If others want to die on this hill, they just ran away from any real fight to freedom.

IMHO, human beings advance through various phases of their life cycles including gestation, infant, toddler, teen, young adult, and geriatric. The gestation phase begins with a single cell at conception. Science, no religion required. Redefining a human in its gestation phase as a "cancer" or somehow declaring it as a rights violator of the mother is absurd.

Now comes the question, are we civilized? If we are, what makes us civilized? IMHO, a very large component of what makes us civilized is respect and value each of us give to our fellow human beings, regardless of what phase of the life cycle your fellow human is in. When we lose that respect and value we become less civilized or not civilized at all.

Edit add: Those who share my opinion may have cost the more conservative senate, but we are now edging closer to a very uncivilized condition. It's going to get worse.

Not even close.

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-ne...

https://news.gallup.com/poll/245618/a...

Want to try again?

Talk all you want. I'll read it.

"A majority of women disagree with you"

that is simply a lie

either we support Life or we are no better than those that would murder an unborn innocent child

and as always, the dems cheated and lied

i pity you
and the dems again cheated
most do not support the murder of an innocent child

When politicians spend the wealth of our grandchildren, and people support that behavior, of course we aren't concerned with our children's future, or their health. Who makes decisions looking a hundred years down the road? 10 years? (Congress.) 1 year? 1 week?

Yes me too. It cannot be ignored. It is an issue in and of itself worth studying.

I agree that life is continuous. The parent's bodies are living, their gametes are living. The sperm and the egg are alive. The fertilized egg is alive. The blastula, embryo, fetus, baby. All are continuous life. There is never a dead condition, life is one continuous uninterrupted chain ever since the beginning of life.

I also believe it is generally wrong to interfere with this. I do believe there are some instances where it is absolutely wrong to force a woman to have the baby. (I knew someone who at 6 months had a sonogram of her baby with half a brain and half a heart. It was destined to die. I can't see the use in forcing her to carry it for 3 months more just to put it in an incubator and watch it die.)

Nevertheless, politically, it's a losing issue. What Hill do we want to Die on? The abortion hill? Isn't there so much more at stake? Crime, inflation, energy, corruption...I say let them have their damned abortions. It's a hill we shouldn't die on. A Captain is about to march his platoon into a meat grinder. He has to ask himself, Is this the Hill I want to Die on today? Is this worth it?

Do we want to lose elections for ever based on abortion? If the conservative movement dies on the hill over abortion, then it loses all influence whatsoever. Then a runaway liberal imbalance exists, which will quickly turn to a dystopian nightmare. Conservatives might want to flex a bit in order to retain some power as opposed to having zero power.

This argument says nothing about the basic morality (immorality) of the abortion issue.

We are on the precipice. But do we have the collective will to take our republic back? Is it already too late? It's being stolen right under our noses. Regardless of your feelings about Trump, he won 2020 by overwhelming numbers. The fact we lacked the backbone to right that wrong, back when it mattered most, was likely the final nail in our coffin.
Do really think we can do anything after our cowardice retreat from that immorality?
The rest of the world is licking their chops about dividing the spoils of post-America. Make no mistake about it, the the world is watching America circle the drain. Some watch in horror, others see opportunity.
If there was one glimmer of hope left; kick the central bank out of this country, force financial responsibility upon our congress critters by printing our own currency backed by something more than just fantasy. While we're at it, kick out the UN, the CFR, dissolve the FBI and CIA: for they are nothing more in theory and practice than an American version of Geheime Staatspolizei.
Personally, I think our goose is cooked.

i do not know how all the different versions work
some may use other "systems" than estrogen

at some point, the health of our kids should be an issue for us all, right now it seems it isn't

OWN it! You support a reason the Democrats maintained control of the Senate. You and Clarence own it.

Then completely separately, you explain how one or two cells are a human being.

Possibly. If a woman gets pregnant from improper use of the product, or wildly fluctuating content uniformity of the tablets, a baby could be exposed to higher levels of estrogen. That could adversely affect the baby or embryo in the early months.

Please tell me what change? Don't slam the hammer down. If we don't talk, all is lost.

Indeed they are, and I choose to end a fruitless conversation. Your mind is not open to change at the moment.

those cells are call an Unborn Child
an innocent Unborn Child that has dene NOTHING to be murdered for

to say otherwise is a delusional lie

gee
i wonder if The Pill and all its variations have anything to do with the increase in children with issues

I need to know! How is it that in almost every election it comes right down to a razor thin margin of votes to determine the winners? In a country with around 350 million this is just not possible.