Tucker Carlson Interviews Vladimir Putin
Posted by freedomforall 1 year, 2 months ago to Politics
Exerpt:
"Last week, Tucker Carlson traveled to Rusia to interview President Vladimir Putin. This sent the left into hysterics - some of whom have called for the journalist to face sanctions, or worse.
Prior to the interview - which can be seen right now in its entirety at tuckercarlson.com, Carlson explained that it's his job as a journalist "to inform people," as "most Americans are not informed" as to what's happening in Ukraine.
To that end, let's get into it.
Tucker starts the interview by asking Putin why he invaded Ukraine, "and the answer we got shocked us."
Putin proceeded to delve into the history of Ukraine, going back to the middle-ages. Tucker pushed back, saying "I'm not sure why it's relevant to what happened two years ago," to which Putin continued with the history lesson.
"But why didn't you make this case for the first 22 years as president, that Ukraine wasn't a real country?" Tucker asked.
"The Soviet Union was given a great deal of territory that had never belonged to it, including the Black Sea region. At some point when Russia received them as an outcome of the Russo Turkish wars, they were called New Russia or another Russia. But that does not matter. What matters is that Lenin, the founder of the Soviet state, established Ukraine that way," Putin replied. "For decades, the Ukrainian Soviet Republic developed as part of the USSR. And for unknown reasons, again, the Bolsheviks were engaged in Ukrainization."
The trigger for the Ukraine war: "Initially, it was the coup in Ukraine that provoked the conflict... They launched the war in Donbas in 2014 with the use of aircraft and artillery against civilians. This is when it all started."
NATO Expansion
Getting to the meat of the Ukraine war, Putin told Carlson that "The former Russian leadership assumed that the Soviet Union had ceased to exist and therefore there were no longer any ideological dividing lines. Russia even agreed voluntarily and proactively to the collapse of the Soviet Union, and believed that this would be understood by the so-called civilized West as an invitation for cooperation and association."
"We were promised no NATO to the east, not an inch to the east, as we were told. And then what? They said, well, it's not enshrined on paper, so we'll expand.""
"Last week, Tucker Carlson traveled to Rusia to interview President Vladimir Putin. This sent the left into hysterics - some of whom have called for the journalist to face sanctions, or worse.
Prior to the interview - which can be seen right now in its entirety at tuckercarlson.com, Carlson explained that it's his job as a journalist "to inform people," as "most Americans are not informed" as to what's happening in Ukraine.
To that end, let's get into it.
Tucker starts the interview by asking Putin why he invaded Ukraine, "and the answer we got shocked us."
Putin proceeded to delve into the history of Ukraine, going back to the middle-ages. Tucker pushed back, saying "I'm not sure why it's relevant to what happened two years ago," to which Putin continued with the history lesson.
"But why didn't you make this case for the first 22 years as president, that Ukraine wasn't a real country?" Tucker asked.
"The Soviet Union was given a great deal of territory that had never belonged to it, including the Black Sea region. At some point when Russia received them as an outcome of the Russo Turkish wars, they were called New Russia or another Russia. But that does not matter. What matters is that Lenin, the founder of the Soviet state, established Ukraine that way," Putin replied. "For decades, the Ukrainian Soviet Republic developed as part of the USSR. And for unknown reasons, again, the Bolsheviks were engaged in Ukrainization."
The trigger for the Ukraine war: "Initially, it was the coup in Ukraine that provoked the conflict... They launched the war in Donbas in 2014 with the use of aircraft and artillery against civilians. This is when it all started."
NATO Expansion
Getting to the meat of the Ukraine war, Putin told Carlson that "The former Russian leadership assumed that the Soviet Union had ceased to exist and therefore there were no longer any ideological dividing lines. Russia even agreed voluntarily and proactively to the collapse of the Soviet Union, and believed that this would be understood by the so-called civilized West as an invitation for cooperation and association."
"We were promised no NATO to the east, not an inch to the east, as we were told. And then what? They said, well, it's not enshrined on paper, so we'll expand.""
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A comment on countries going up and down. First of all, we are all dependent on other people for our lives as we know them today. Not just internationally, but also within our own borders. I just ate a fancy burger that had beef, cheese, jalapenos, lettuce, bacon, secret sauce(?). I am dependent on the farmers who made the lettuce, raised the cows and pigs, processed the cheese from the milk the cows provided. Without all those people, I don't eat what I just had. If our economy crashed, our lives as we know them would face major disruptions.
A business relies on customers and their needs. If those needs change because the customers are older or younger, the business must adapt in size and what it provides if it wants to stay in business.
Same thing applies to a country. The people in the country must be willing to adapt to changes in demographics both inside and outside its borders. That applies to the USA and also Russia. Economies are similar to individual businesses, and have to adapt to those changes. Trying to take over additional lands is not a very efficient way to adapt, as there are bad side effects to that. We in the USA should heed that and try to maintain our lifestyles in the face of many changes both inside and outside of our borders. We are doing a BAD job of that by bringing in millions of illegals who arent going to help our country by feeding off our citizens and not having useful skills. Our national debt is going to collapse the country financially at some point. Those two things are MAJOR problems that we are trying to ignore, but which till cripple us.
Russia should consider that same issues. Maybe Russia can preserve a significant amount of its economy even with demographic shifts, and still have good lives for its people. Russia is doing quite good with resources it can trade to other countries. Its pretty safe from invasion too. If mean who is going to attack Russia !!!!
Why did you not fight the Propaganda?
My INTERPRETATION of the Response:
Putin: ~"Against the US-Controlled World-Wide Propaganda Machine... The likes the world has never seen before? Come On this would have been futile! Like trying to get your media to admit there was ZERO Russian Collusion, and Trump is a Decent Person... It simply cannot be said, heard, echoed or repeated without pain of punishment..."
If his English were better, he would have said it my way... LOL. But that's what I heard.
He could have added:
The Average Communist Mouthpieces BLUSH when they think of the power the USA Deep State/CIA Yield in spreading lies!
In fact, this is what made them realize that Capitalism produces better results!!!
Trust me Comrade!
ROTFLMAO
have betrayed the country and the People and accept the punishment for treason.
The country nor the People have any responsibility for the unconstitutional actions
of the Deep State controlled government, except perhaps that the people have a
responsibility in a republic to revolt against the treasonous fedgov.
MAGA Protestors were concerned, they did not riot.
From what I saw, it was a FED-Surection.
John Nichols (the scaffold commander), Ray Epps.... the people wearing their MAGA cap backwards... Panty-fah.
The first image of someone wearing a "Qanon shirt.... FED. FED FED.
The first windows broken were broken by the capitol police (there is video of this. it exists)
The FBI infiltrated the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers. Seeing a pattern here?
They tear gassed the back of the crowd forcing the people in front with no choice but to go forward.
The pipebomb the cap-police expressed little interest in. They actually directed people (with children) to walk within the bombs range.
The violence was entirely an inside job.
Russia can't stop trying to grab all the territory it can, as it will only have the young population to support military action for the next ten years, before the demographic bomb hits, and there aren't enough young people left. Even now the effects of the current action in Ukraine are straining the limits, as increasing the size of the military has reduced the size of the labor force for Russia's military industries to the point that they can't meet the schedules for new armored vehicles.
Common sense left the picture long ago, crushed by Putin's determination to restore Russia's international stature and secure a defensive posture that controls all the possible land invasion corridors.
What really started Ukraine-Russia relations rolling toward a catastrophic collision was Ukraine's refusal to renew the lease of Sevastopol for the Black Sea fleet. Without that port, Russia would have to undertake a huge infrastructure effort in Rostov or one of the other Black Sea Russian ports, so the loss of that port was the tipping point.
NATO is treaty bound to accept requests to join from any European state, and did not proselytize for new members after the collapse of the Soviet Union. It was the rise to power of Yuri Andropov's favorite KGB agent Putin that led nations to seek NATO membership. Otherwise, they felt it was obvious that they would soon have the Russian collar around their necks again, in a new Warsaw Pact.
Trump held Putin's hand in check by simply telling him that he could break Russia's economic back by enabling increased production of American oil and gas, dropping the international price below what it cost the Russian industry to produce. Putin does not want to see Trump in charge again.
That said, I don't thin Putin is particularly bound by morality, particularly if his power was threatened. I do think that the Ukraine war could be stopped in a few days if Trump gets a chance to negotiate with Putin directly.
Russia and USA need to sit down and just end the Ukraining thing. We don't need to supply military stuff to maintain a conflict, and neither does Russia. As things are going, Ukraine in short order will be a vast wasteland filled with dead people- and for what?
If I was king, I would go over to Russia and work out a solution wherein both countries admit to misjudgment and bad actions that need to stop now-period. If both countries are ok with looking bad as a starter, the conflict can be over pretty fast.
and think before posting your criticism.
I would like to hear your opinion of the US telling the Russian leaders that NATO
would never move one inch closer to Russia and then breaking that promise.
This is not a case of NATO white hats against Russia black hats.
The sole evil empire is not in Moscow.
The biggest and most powerful evil is the Deep State warlords in D.C.,
Brussels, London, and their conspirators in places like Ukraine.
What power is going to limit that evil empire's 'imperial dreams?'
It certainly isn't coming from the GOP or the Democrats or
any other arm of the US federal government.
It certainly isn't coming from the UN which is a Deep State
conspirator supporting the evil imperial dreams.
Every country seems to want to take over other countries in the whole of history. The USA did it until it expanded from the Atlantic to the Pacific. I am sure Russia wants it too, even though they have more land area than anyone else (but most of it is frozen and useless). The USA should concentrate on making itself a great country with tremendous defenses that no one wants to test, and we ll live in peace as a result. Fighting over Ukraine is a useless exercise even for Russia, and it should be stopped ASAP
If I were elected president, the first thing I would do is visit Putin and tell him that both Russia and the USA have made mistakes in the pas (The USA reneged on Minsk agreement and NATO, and Russia thought that taking over Ukraine would be a two day invasion and it wasn't), and its time to accept those and settle disagreements and move on. Russia and USA need to be friendly neighbors, same with China too. I would tell Putin that a good start would be to revisit the Minsk agreements and reinstate those and pull all the troops out on both sides and leave Ukraine to elect its own leaders and get no further military help without interference from the USA.
Trump can do this, and I hope for everyone's sake that he gets a chance to do just that. Biden and the left doesn't know how to get out of a war (Afghanistan), but certainly knows how to get us into one (ukraine)
Putiin asked a good question- with a huge national debt and uncontrolled borders, why is the USA interested at all in fighting in Ukraine? Damn good question !!!
The famous slogan of The New York Times~~"All The News That's Fit To Print"~~has a Fake News different meaning in this day and time.
Ukraine (borders always in motion) was tossed around like a rag doll. Russia, Poland, Hungry, Lithuania, Romania, all possessing some or all of Ukraine.
Russia clearly having the longest standing claim, (16th century) of the most amount, of that war-torn country (the bloodlands).
Further, back in the 15th century, the Ukrainian head of state wrote letters to both Polish King (who was trying, and failing, to change their language and religious views, and The Russian Czar. Poland to leave, Russia to come to their aid.
They chose Russia. Most of the rest of the story is common knowledge:
The C.I.A. starts wars and coups everywhere they can, for the profit of the Central Bankers (which is the very reason they were created and exist to this day) that they (the C.I.A.) started this war by staging a coup in 2014.
It was a breath of fresh air to hear it proclaimed openly.
Mark Thursday February 8th 2024 as the day the Deep State and the Leftist puppets in Congress were exposed for the warpigs and financial oligarchs they are.
Politically and Legally they got spanked like a red-headed step child.
Their demented crony puppet illegally in the big chair, was exposed as a multiple count felon who cannot be legally prosecuted because he is too mentally impaired to stand trial.
The leaves Jamaican-Born CamelToe (Who can't legally be President), or Mike Johnson. This fight is going to be epic.
If the Deep State ceases Russian US Bonds, the world will have a fire sale of all their US bonds. BRICS is patiently waiting for the day the USA is no longer the worlds exchange.
That leaves two conclusions:
> This country has proven we can't be trusted with other peoples money.
> Our so-called leaders will not stand behind our treaties or agreements. As we used to say as kids, they lie like a rug.
There is no gentle way to say this, these are a self-inflicted wounds, yet another in a long series of unforced errors.
Bottom line. Putin puts Russia first.
I sure wish we had someone who put America first. Instead we have the worse political embarrassment any country has ever had to suffer through, at any time in history.
Prove me wrong.
I'm sorry you all are so loyal to the Republicans that you can't see that Putin is an imperialist and NATO hasn't harmed the Russian people in the least. it has only limited Putin's imperial dreams.
What was clear is that the global delete and the American Kakistocracy has always shinned Russia, especially Putin, saying we'll get back to you and didn't.
Seems to me that Putin is a whole lot smarter and honest than any creatures in the rest of the world.
He reminded me a lot of Ayn Rand . . .
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