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I might get tossed from the Gulch, but I've got two questions

Posted by $ rainman0720 10 months, 2 weeks ago to Politics
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I know I’m potentially setting myself up to get blown out of the Gulch, but I’ve got two questions I have to get off my chest. If this post costs me my Gulch membership, so be it. These questions are not—I repeat, NOT—directed at any one person. But I am putting them out because I want to hear what others think. I simply have no answer to either of them.

And with these two questions, I grab both third rails: Abortion, and the T part of the letter group.

My first question: If you are a practitioner of any modern Christian religion, it’s likely that your faith believes that life begins at conception. In this position, how in the Hell can you vote for a Democrat? Yes, this is a huge generality, and I know there are exceptions, but as a group, Democrats pretty much support abortion, in some cases damn near up until the time of birth. How can you possibly vote for a candidate who will do his/her best to enact laws not only allowing abortion, but actually encouraging it, and thereby violating one of the basics of your faith?

My second question: If you’re female, how in the hell can you vote for candidates who want to, quite literally, take away the things you’ve worked so hard to obtain? Again, yes, it’s a generality, but as a whole, Democrats are doing everything they can to erase all of the benefits you’ve rightfully finally obtained with Title IX by allowing biological males to compete against—and more often than not, defeat—biological females. How many scholarships, Olympic opportunities, etc., and the resulting downstream opportunities, have been lost because of this Democrat-driven trans-mania we are being forced to endure? How can you vote for someone who, for all practical purposes, won’t even acknowledge your existence?

I’m sorry, but I honestly do not understand how a Christian person or a woman could possibly vote Democrat, since so damn many of their policies run counter to your beliefs, your tenets, even your biology.

Fire away, Gulchers.


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  • Posted by mhubb 10 months, 1 week ago in reply to this comment.
    you also have to be truly sorry
    which means you cannot go out and keep doing the same "sins"
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  • Posted by $ 10 months, 1 week ago in reply to this comment.
    "How many women pretend to be men so they can compete in men's sports?
    Right? Case closed."

    I thought of three follow-up questions in regard to men competing against women, especially when the so-called "experts" claim there is no difference.

    If that's true, if there really isn't a difference, then:

    1. Why do men play 5-set tennis matches, when women only play 3-set matches?

    2. Why is the women's basketball 4/10 of an inch smaller in diameter than the men's basketball ?

    3. Why is the word record 100m dash for men almost one second faster than the women's world record? (9.58 vs 10.49)?
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  • Posted by $ 10 months, 1 week ago in reply to this comment.
    At conception, I think it's impossible to argue that SOMETHING isn't growing. Two cells become four, four cells become eight, etc. By definition, at least to me, that defines life. Now, exactly what is growing, is obviously a societal hot button. Some people think it's human life, others can't (or won't) see it as anything more than a clump of cells. But regardless, it is growing. Therefore, it's life, at least of some kind.
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  • Posted by $ puzzlelady 10 months, 1 week ago
    Why are there two parties? Dividing the population under one all-powerful ruler (king, emperor, pope, prime minister, dictator, etc.) into two major groups goes back millennia to give the two extremes of the population a stand-off seeming to find a balanced midpoint, rather than allow all to go to bloodshed to subdue the other. What extremes? The richest, smartest, most influential against the poorest, subdued, obliged to obedience.

    This seeming balance was to prevent constant bloodshed between the groups. Give people the illusion of having some powers and rights kept civil wars to a minimum. Subdividing the two groups into more would splinter the interest groups into unmanageable minorities. Whether the two major groups are called Torys or Whigs, or Republicans and Democrats, or elite vs. commoners, the division of property and power between the upper and lower classes prevailed. Everyone needs to eat, but what and how much, at what cost, defines the social structures. Dividing into more and more subsidiary groups is a formula for civil war.

    From these premises, abortion can become desirable to reduce population growth. And increase in gender deviation is another trick of nature to reduce population growth. Then it’s just a question as to whose population is to shrink, by whose manipulation.

    As for intermingling of genders in sports, that goes against the original assignment of gender divisions. If third and fourth categories are to join in the competitions, let them be their own categories, not mixed into the standard male and female sections. By all means let individuals be what they wish to declare themselves to be--in their own designated divisions, not secreted into the historical definitions. There...fairness to all.
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  • Posted by tutor-turtle 10 months, 1 week ago
    Good questions. Both.
    I have always thought, if you can terminate your child, why stop at birth. You know how pesky teenagers can get (yes, that's sarcasm).
    In all seriousness, you know when you're pregnant, waiting until the child is viable, is Infanticide. Plenty of people want children and can't have them. Chose adoption.
    Any serious study of Margret Sanger and planned parenthood know it's founding is based on Eugenics.
    This is the real reason why minorities and the poor represent the vast majority of Infanticide.

    Riddle me this Batman:
    How many women pretend to be men so they can compete in men's sports?
    Right? Case closed.

    God made you who you are.
    Was he wrong? Did he make a mistake?

    When you fight Gods will, the price is very high.
    It might take a while to realize it. People with gender confusion are, statistically, at much higher risk of suicide and self mutilation.

    How much of this madness (and it is a form of mental illness, prove me wrong) is media driven?
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  • Posted by GrandpaCute 10 months, 1 week ago
    I am a male seasoned citizen unfamiliar with Black's Law, but I like the exposure recently presented. If one defines "life" as becoming a human being and dealing with abortion, I am comfortable waiting for science (not Limbaugh nor Pelosi) defining when that occurs. Let's say someday "they" define it as 2 months after conception or having x million differentiated cells. Before that time period or cell count, I would then have no problem with an abortion. After that metric, methinks we are dealing with a human life. Today, before science speaks, I err on the side of caution and answer to pro-life-begins-at-conception. I bear no grudge against those who disagree, but I marvel at the mindset that "one can abort a fetus when it is crowning." That premise is at the crux of every calm, rational discussion I have had with pro-choice demb friends
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  • Posted by bfreeman 10 months, 1 week ago
    I think that the Declaration of Independence states that "all men have the God-given rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." (Likely got that slightly wrong - but - whatever.) By "all men" today we generally recognize the substitution of "all humans" to be equivalent. Once fertilization takes place, is there any chance that a human zygote will become anything but human? I agree with Commander that there are extenuating circumstances that can and should be taken into account - promptly, but abortion is not birth control, especially after a heart beat can be detected. It is simply murder.

    On the topic of the Democommies, let us grab the third of the third rails for completeness. Why would any person of Jewish persuasion ever vote Democommie? Yet this community has always been a trusted portion of the Democommie voting block when all of the Democommie practices are decidedly anti-Jewish. I really do not understand this situation and certainly do not wish any Jewish person ill.
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  • Posted by NealS 10 months, 1 week ago in reply to this comment.
    It would be interesting, freedom of speech and all, for someone to paint a Nazi flag on an adjacent street. We do not live in a free society anymore, and not even one that is balanced.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 10 months, 1 week ago
    I am not a Christian, and do not see any technical basis for life beginning at conception. Since this is the case, the only basis for the assertion that life begins at conception is religious, and using the government to force your religious beliefs on others is ethically wrong and unconstitutional.


    Can’t agree with you more on the second though. Mentally deficient trans 0.001% of men (somehow it just never happens in women-T’s) have NO BUSINESS competing in women’s sports. My solution is either 1) you compete with the gender you were born as (period), or 2) we eliminate gendered sports , and just have sports. Everyone in the same group.


    And I would never support silencing you from the Gulch for asking such a benign question! Going insane, illogical and inflammatory in your responses to differing opinions, like mine? Maybe.
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  • Posted by mccannon01 10 months, 1 week ago
    ANY honest discussion should be welcome here in the Gulch with no fear of being "thrown out". However, if you make a controversial post, expect controversy in the response.

    With that said I am pro life and don't need a religion to take that stance. The topic has been well beaten in the Gulch with various viewpoints represented. Nobody got thrown out.

    Regarding males competing in female sports, IMHO NO WAY even if they are pretending to be female! Back in high school wrestling was part of the physical education curricula and we had to step on a scale to separate weight classes to make the matches more "matched". Males and females are essentially different classes determined at the scale of birth and allowing direct competition is a mismatch from the get go, which is one of the main reasons for Title IX in the first place. You can paint stripes on a cow and call it a zebra, but it is still a cow.
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  • Posted by mccannon01 10 months, 1 week ago in reply to this comment.
    Maybe you should paint a patriotic flag or saying on a street and see how many police are put on the case of someone squealing on it. Zero, I'll bet.
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  • Posted by Yukongal 10 months, 1 week ago
    I have the same questions and have not been able to reconcile the Democratic vote. It is not logical to vote for a party is openly in opposition of these moral values and strives to demoralize those values with their policies.
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  • Posted by NealS 10 months, 1 week ago in reply to this comment.
    We've got a situation with the LGBTQ+ community here in Spokane. They painted their strips on one of our streets and some kids peeled out with their car over them. Now there is a bulletin looking for their arrest and convictions of a hate crime. A total waste of police response. Can I paint anything on my street? Hell no. This is not how a democratic system is supposed to work. It's just another example of hypocrisy. The LGBTQ+ are just looking for attention, they get it, and some poor kids get an arrest record.
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  • Posted by VetteGuy 10 months, 1 week ago in reply to this comment.
    What difference? I happen to have grand-daughters. I don't want them forced to share a locker room with some guy, just because he wants to. I also don't want them losing scholarship opportunities if their interest in sports leads them that far.

    If the 'sleeping dogs' would just lay there it would be one thing. But not only do they lie, they cheat and sometimes rape.
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  • Posted by NealS 10 months, 1 week ago
    I think part of the answer to your question on voting is Hypocrisy, I think we all possess it. This allows us to vote the way we do, right or wrong.

    Abortion should be between you and your God. The government should have little say. Elected officials can do nothing to effect it one way of the other. Crime is the same thing, either you're for it or against it. The laws only give us a common ground. Break them we break you. As far as the gender thing, I predict it will go away, or at least fizzle out. The laws, if there are any, will be abolished as soon as we get a leader with a human brain. Are you aware that my State, I'm embarrassed to say, still has some ridiculous laws on the books. No buying meat on Sundays, no simultaneous dancing and drinking, no pretending your parents are wealthy, no biting off another's leg, no harassing bigfoot, no X-Ray Specs. Look up your own State, you'll find all kinds of weird stuff our politicians put in and never took out. Maybe we could use a few of them to jail our politicians, like catching them buying meat on Sunday and prosecuting them under the law.
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  • Posted by $ gharkness 10 months, 1 week ago in reply to this comment.
    Well, at least nominally he has to BE SORRY - that is what I was taught in elementary school.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 10 months, 1 week ago
    rainman, you ain't going anywhere. When I read your first question, me dino busted out laughing.
    The essence of humor is the unexpected and that was a particular question I was not expecting at all.
    I'm a Christian and I do not vote Demonerratic. Oops did I misspell that? I don't care.
    When I first showed up, some Gulchers called admitted Christians mystics. I looked the word up and on this board I admitted that by that word's definition I am a mystic.
    Think at one point I added "Oogaboogah!" Or maybe I just wanted to. That was way back. Whatever, I just did that now.
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  • Posted by term2 10 months, 1 week ago in reply to this comment.
    Government agencies are slower than they ever were, in spite of major advances in computer power and major expenditures having been made by the agencies.

    We buy a lot of subassemblies from china. I have noticed that shipping FROM china is really great and has gotten cheaper since the pandemic. Getting things from china to the USA is fast and accurate. Getting them delivered within the USA is the problem once they arrive in the country.

    I have noticed that customer service in the USA has failed to a large extent, and prices here have been continually rising for the last few years- I would average the total rise in prices at 30-40%. Its mostly because of money printing, deficit spending, and some supply chain disruption as companies are trying to deal with great reset restrictions and regulations.
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  • Posted by term2 10 months, 1 week ago in reply to this comment.
    Our government is WAY too big. It cant seem to do anything very well, if at all. A friend had to wait two years to get a simple renewal on his green card. I cant get a registration renewal appointment for two months from the DMV. Its all about money, and in spite of have a brand new larger building, the wait time is still months...
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  • Posted by term2 10 months, 1 week ago in reply to this comment.
    I could care less if someone wants to identify with one of the letters in LGBTQ+. So long as they don't force me to identify with one of them (or others included in the +). Let sleeping dogs lie.
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  • Posted by term2 10 months, 1 week ago in reply to this comment.
    Personally, I dont care which of the letters you want to be identified as. What difference does it make to my life? Let sleeping dogs lie
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