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I might get tossed from the Gulch, but I've got two questions

Posted by $ rainman0720 10 months, 2 weeks ago to Politics
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I know I’m potentially setting myself up to get blown out of the Gulch, but I’ve got two questions I have to get off my chest. If this post costs me my Gulch membership, so be it. These questions are not—I repeat, NOT—directed at any one person. But I am putting them out because I want to hear what others think. I simply have no answer to either of them.

And with these two questions, I grab both third rails: Abortion, and the T part of the letter group.

My first question: If you are a practitioner of any modern Christian religion, it’s likely that your faith believes that life begins at conception. In this position, how in the Hell can you vote for a Democrat? Yes, this is a huge generality, and I know there are exceptions, but as a group, Democrats pretty much support abortion, in some cases damn near up until the time of birth. How can you possibly vote for a candidate who will do his/her best to enact laws not only allowing abortion, but actually encouraging it, and thereby violating one of the basics of your faith?

My second question: If you’re female, how in the hell can you vote for candidates who want to, quite literally, take away the things you’ve worked so hard to obtain? Again, yes, it’s a generality, but as a whole, Democrats are doing everything they can to erase all of the benefits you’ve rightfully finally obtained with Title IX by allowing biological males to compete against—and more often than not, defeat—biological females. How many scholarships, Olympic opportunities, etc., and the resulting downstream opportunities, have been lost because of this Democrat-driven trans-mania we are being forced to endure? How can you vote for someone who, for all practical purposes, won’t even acknowledge your existence?

I’m sorry, but I honestly do not understand how a Christian person or a woman could possibly vote Democrat, since so damn many of their policies run counter to your beliefs, your tenets, even your biology.

Fire away, Gulchers.


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  • Posted by term2 10 months, 2 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    Being a democrat today is just to expand powers of some people over others. They are called statists, and only want you to work FOR them so long as you have the same ideas as they do.
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  • Posted by term2 10 months, 2 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    One reason we have independent states is that this allows for different things to be promoted in different states. I think abortion is one of those. Just leave it up to the the doctors to decide who will be willing to do abortions and when. Why is the government getting involved in it.
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  • Posted by JohnRandALL 10 months, 2 weeks ago
    Cognitive dissonance is a trademark of demonrats. And what they say often makes no sense, a sign of mental illness.
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  • Posted by term2 10 months, 2 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    Democrats are universally promoting the increase of power for the party and the minions that are members. I don't listen to anything they say anymore, as its just some perverted propaganda.
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  • Posted by term2 10 months, 2 weeks ago
    I think that abortion is a pretty bad solution to a self-created problem. If you don't want a baby with a person, don't have sex with them, use protection, or the morning after pill. Once the die is cast, make your decision quickly, and there is no need to wait 6 months to surgically abort the pregnancy. Surgical abortion is really an abomination and an unnecessary and dangerous "fix" to a problem that you didn't want to deal with.
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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 10 months, 2 weeks ago
    Recent Analysis is showing.
    Democrats would lose without the FEMALE vote.

    In fact, across the board, Men are far more conservative, and women are far more liberal (until they get married and have something to protect).

    Let that guide PART of your answer.

    Next, Rights vs. Freedoms.
    I may not have a RIGHT to do something, but I often have the Freedom to do it. (Pissing behind a building, in a city, out of desperation).

    The T thing is just mental illness, and needs to go back to being viewed/treated that way. Sorry. If you feel that strongly you are in the wrong body. Then it is far more likely your FEELINGS are WRONG than your body is wrong. (Even given a lack of Testosterone bathing your "male" brain could be the root of your extra feminine tendencies).

    I am sorry you see the Democrats as the problem.
    Fix your glasses. The DEEP STATE is the problem, and whatever they want, they get, with VETO PROOF bills when they need it.

    The color of the Jersey doesn't matter to the Deep State. They are in control.
    They will keep dividing us... Because if we EVER UNITE against the Deep State. And we start CHARGING/EXECUTING them. (NIFO as FFA would say).
    Then we would wrest control from them.

    They would RATHER SEE WWIII with a Nuclear Holocaust than lose that power.
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  • Posted by $ 25n56il4 10 months, 2 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    BTW We Are expecting 25 hurricanes this Season 16 of which will be Major Hurricanes. nb
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  • Posted by $ 25n56il4 10 months, 2 weeks ago
    Well since I have lived in Texas nearly all of my life except for one excursion to Louisiana when my x2 got posted at Ft Polk. I came home again in 1972 and haven't even thought of leaving. You can bet I no longer vote Democrat. I did at a very young age but not since I could understand things. Since we are now entering our Hurricane season I think the Border crossings will cease to be a problem. Let these crazies coming in experience just one of our hurricanes and they'll want to scoot back across that Border and return to their homeland. Incidentally today we are expecting a foot of rain to fall in the next three days. nb
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  • Posted by freedomforall 10 months, 2 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    The "administrative" state acts in its own interests.
    Keeping your assets as long as possible is normal.
    Competence is also becoming rare in many parts of our society that now awards jobs with no weight toward merit, experience, or intellect.
    Have you noticed that "private" shipping has become as slow or slower than government shipping, and often with as little concern for customer satisfaction?
    Service in the US is declining rapidly and is approaching Banana republic status almost as rapidly as government.
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  • Posted by GaryL 10 months, 2 weeks ago
    If this gets you blown out they might as well just cancel the Gulch!
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 10 months, 2 weeks ago
    Very interesting questions. My father used to tell me that I should start my church called "What's Happening Now" due to my constant spiritual search. So, I do agree with you about the prevailing evil that has infiltrated politics and the administrative state. They no longer see the people of this country paying their salaries but as lowly peons. I had to submit my tax return twice to the IRS after waiting some time I had not received the refund (which I desperately needed) my accountant said I should contact my congressperson. I sent a letter and then submitted a release form. After about three more weeks I finally received the refund—a total waiting time of three months. I would love to see the administrative state and most of the federal government dissolved. I believe that evil has increased due to the replica of the Gate of Baal is across from the congressional building. https://hiddeninthecrag.org/.
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  • Posted by $ 10 months, 2 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    To address you next-to-last statement...I wish just one reporter would have had the balls to stand up in front of the entire press pool and ask the Wicked Witch of the West: "Ms. Pelosi, you support abortion, even though your Catholic religion views abortion as murder. Can you tell us how you plan to answer God when he questions you on this point?"
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  • Posted by $ 10 months, 2 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    Wow. Sometimes I'm still surprised (although I shouldn't be) that there is still this much ignorance in the world.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 10 months, 2 weeks ago
    A: Rational thought against their training is rare among people who have been brainwashed for years.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov 10 months, 2 weeks ago
    The unfortunate answer is that the people who vote Democrat have less than a bushel basket of brain cells altogether. The word "think" is an obscenity to them, as they're told they should ignore facts and logic, and go with their feelings.

    To see how completely disconnected from reality these folks are, there's a conservative gay drag queen (that alone makes you think) who goes by the name "Lady MAGA" who's been confronting the crowd of "Queers for Palestine" and asking them about their support for an organization that would kill them. None of the ones he questioned had a clue that being anything but straight in Islam is a death sentence, but it gets worse. Not one he questioned even knew that Israel wasn't an Islamic state, but Jewish, and all were astonished to learn that Israel recognizes Gay Pride month.
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  • Posted by citizen1 10 months, 2 weeks ago
    As an unapologetic Christian, conservative, politically independent citizen of this country, I would agree with your statements/value the questions. I grew up in a historically Democrat held area of the South, (inasmuch that a few well known Democrat politicians hail from near my hometown, and one Vice President even stumped for votes in my grandparents living room in the 80's) but I emerged from my childhood ambivalent towards politics. As an adult, I have seen activities on both 'sides' that were wrong, and to some, despicable.

    I agree, I do not understand how a thinking Christian can vote Democrat.

    My question, however, is how have we allowed the governing machine to posit only two choices for political leadership on our ballots? Don't you think that maybejust maybe* they all work together to maintain their livelihoods? Perhaps there are entities at some level that steer and direct the population to two choices, both of whom can be steered "by hook or by crook" into decisions that benefit only the entities behind the whole affair?

    I have voted Republican at times because I agreed with more of their stand than the Democrats, but I have yet to hear a platform that I can wholeheartedly stand behind.

    The sheer fact that we can openly devalue human life through justifying and normalizing abortion is enough to demonstrate enmity between the Democratic party and
    The God I know and serve.

    Not very objectivist of me, but I am willing to risk being kicked out of clubs/town/church/the gulch for my views as well. It wouldn't be the first time. :)
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  • Posted by jimslag 10 months, 2 weeks ago
    Don't feel like the Lone stranger on here. I have been professing these points on ZuckBook and X (Twitter or Elon World) for some time and have landed in Jail on ZB for months at a time. I think the majority on here are of the same mind but I believe we are the silent majority. Most are to reticent to say anything, they plod along in their happy little world until it slaps them in the face. The only reason I am on ZB is that is how I keep in touch with my Navy buddies and some friends from places I used to live.
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  • Posted by $ gharkness 10 months, 2 weeks ago
    Not really a Christian, but I was raised in the Christian "mindset." The only thing I can think of concerning the first question is, with Democrats, it's (D)ifferent. They fancy themselves (the women, anyway) to be the ultimate arbiter of literally everything they do, and so that means a woman's body should never be subject to any higher power's rule. I personally am having trouble understanding also why so many professing Catholics are willing to risk hell for a political position. I mean, they DO believe mortal sin will send them to hell, no? That was what I was taught, anyway, even though I no longer am Catholic. Actually, I have no problem understanding it. It's called "Hang on to power in any way possible, no matter what."

    I hold Biden personally responsible for every single Covid "vaccine" death. Why? Because ultimately, he mandated them for government workers. While my husband and I have not had severe repercussions (we took J&J and stopped while we were "ahead,") plenty of people did.

    On to Title IX. I have ZERO interest in sports of any kind; yet this is really not a sports question. It's a question of people being what they are, and behaving like it.

    IF NOTHING ELSE: A=A, and as far as I am concerned, that's the END of the trans conversation. Anyone who cannot comprehend that (I know WE all know what A=A means) is not fit to live in a civilized society, and they certainly should not be allowed to vote. This stance has cost me my relationship with my only daughter.

    In further answer to your question, I can only say that it appears the Dim-wits I've talked to either cannot comprehend what has actually happened, or their political mentors have somehow successfully hid from them the repercussions of what they are doing. They actually think WE are the "dumb" ones.
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    Posted by johnchaney 10 months, 2 weeks ago
    I see no reason you'd be excommunicated from the Gulch. If anything, you should fit right in. I'd be surprised if there are any demoncrats here except to troll. Your questions are spot on. Demoncrats had been perverted for many years. That's why I've said for years, "democrats, satans little children".
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  • Posted by mhubb 10 months, 2 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    i'm waiting for the EMP or Solar Flare that removes all this crap (faceless book, ect) from the world

    :-)
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