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Give Me Liberty Or Give Me Death

Posted by freedomforall 9 months, 3 weeks ago to Philosophy
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"It is not easy to take one’s independence back from those who have taken it away, for they will not give it back. Frederick Douglass understood this. He said a man gets exactly the amount of tyranny he is willing to abide.

If you have tired of abiding it, then stop abiding it. If a committed-enough minority of Americans decides to do just that, perhaps in the not-so-distant future Americans will be able to celebrate their independence again.

As opposed to what has become the Farce of July."
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D.C. is much worse than King George ever was.
NIFO


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  • Posted by j_IR1776wg 9 months, 3 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    Are you an anarchist?

    Anarchy /ăn′ər-kē/
    noun

    1) Absence of any form of political authority.
    2) Political disorder and confusion.
    3) Absence of any cohesive principle, such as a common standard or purpose.
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  • Posted by nonconformist 9 months, 3 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    Well, I would argue that the limit is zero, i.e. no involuntary action allowed (except in defense against non-voluntary action).
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  • Posted by nonconformist 9 months, 3 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, they are pretty well brainwashed. I do feel pity for them as well. However, they are grown up persons and must answer for their actions.

    I think the problem that you have is that you are also brainwashed. You should first figure out exactly the reason why I am disparaging them. I am sure if you are a reasonable person, you would eventually agree with me. By the way, the reason is they are actually helping in the enslavement. They are also accepting funds that were gained by larceny.

    The state has NEVER been non-corrupt. The whole idea of the state is evil. Volunteering levels are easy to restore with some application of brainwashing, gaslighting and bit of false flaggery.
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  • Posted by 9 months, 3 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    Exactly. The farmer, baker, and mechanic don't have power to control you so it's a voluntary exchange.
    Government without adequate limits (and punishment for exceeding limits) has power and will use force to make people do whatever government wants, aka involuntary servitude, slavery.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 9 months, 3 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    First Bond movie I saw in a downtown theater of St. Petersburg, FL. Immediately hooked on 007, shortly thereafter I caught up with Dr. No and From Russia With Love at the Skyview Drive-In of Dothan, AL all during the Sixties.
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  • Posted by amhunt 9 months, 3 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    He would make an interesting VP choice for Trump -- the Demopublicans would have to think very carefully about removing Trump. Of course they would then viciously attack him!
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  • Posted by nonconformist 9 months, 3 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    You are right, I should have explained a bit more.

    Statism has psychologically manipulated you into a certain belief system to keep you in their mental slavery.

    It is one thing to put on uniform and provide security services to someone. But it is quite a different thing to forcefully do it by charging arbitrary amounts of money for it and preventing competition from existing.

    The state is a protection racket. What do you think would happen if you decided that they are charging too much for their 'service'? What if you decided that you want to get the same service from a competing entity? It will be war. You see, they are not protecting you so that you could do what you are doing right now. That's what they want you to believe. They are only protecting you from not being their slave.

    I would respect these people only under the condition that they must provide their service voluntarily and not prevent competition from existing. Additionally, I would not provide them with any more respect than I would a farmer, a baker or a mechanic. It is just a service for god's sake, what's with the religious fervor?
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 9 months, 3 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    Shocking! Just shocking!
    (Me dino mimicking Sean Connery's James Bond after he knocked a bad guy into a bathtub filled with water and tossed a switched-on hairdryer in after him. Can't recall which flick).
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  • Posted by 9 months, 3 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    Just hold still while we fit this collar and manacles (or you'll get 50,000 volts in addition to the collar and manacles.)
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  • Posted by mhubb 9 months, 3 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    fully aware of the War Between the States

    back then people could mostly fend for themselves, except in big cities.

    today such a war would have millions starving as food shipments broke down
    medicines would be in short supply

    would be ugly, like an EMP attack
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  • Posted by mccannon01 9 months, 3 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    Make sure Chris Plante is moved out of DC and made head of Radio Free America. Some time back a Gulcher mentioned him and I've been informed/entertained by him ever since. I pop in the headphones and enjoy the banter while I'm working in the yard or in the shop. Like OUC's memes, he has me thinking and laughing at the same time. WMAL radio 9:00 to Noon weekdays.
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  • Posted by 9 months, 3 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    Indeed, the last such conflict against tyranny put us here,
    needing another conflict against the same tyranny.
    Turning the other cheek to tyranny for the past 160 years
    has solved nothing and given the tyrants more and more power.
    The tyrants use force against American people constantly and
    now won't even allow peaceful demonstrations against their actions.
    Do you have a rational and peaceful solution to remove such
    unconstitutional tyranny today?
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  • Posted by 9 months, 3 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    As you predicted, in the 16 years since you made that video, governments have made everything much worse by doing all the unconstitutional things you indicated they do.
    Yes, voters are 'nuts' when the votes are counted fairly.
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  • Posted by mccannon01 9 months, 3 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    Everyone I know that served still believed they were volunteering to serve "The home of the brave and the land of the free" and the ideals the Republic represented. NONE of them served to enslave anyone. They were honest citizens and disparaging them is disgusting. Just because the state has moved away from its original intent due to corrupt and evil actors does not detract from the personal efforts of those who volunteered to serve presumably on our behalf. Notice as the corruption and immorality of the leadership becomes more known, the volunteering is tapering off.
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  • Posted by $ rainman0720 9 months, 3 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    Um, not sure I understand your comment. If you were willing to put on a uniform and quite literally risk your life so that I could do what I'm doing right now, I would thank you as well.
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  • Posted by nonconformist 9 months, 3 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, I always thought that asking for death is a bit defeatist.

    The second problem with that quote is that it seems to imply that liberty can be given. Bullshit. Liberty can only be taken away. So, it should be 'Don't enslave me or I kill you'.

    Except, even that is a bit of a miss. I would maybe try other options first, such as persuasion, conflict avoidance and finally enslavement of the offending party. Why kill them when you can put them to work doing something useful? Maybe after a while they will finally give up on their delusions and be more cooperative.
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  • Posted by nonconformist 9 months, 3 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    The only problem here is that they were taking liberties and giving deaths by being a part of a criminal organization known as the state, and even joining its violent appendage no less. You guys are so misguided...
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  • Posted by xba739 9 months, 3 weeks ago
    Be careful what you wish for. Your last civil war was the worst of times for many people and that is an understatement. Speak to Iranians or Irish or Vietnamese. War is written about in heroic language but in reality it is chaos death and misery. It would st your country back fifty years
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  • Posted by $ splumb 9 months, 3 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    He also said we should have bombed Germany back to the Stone Age and marched on to Moscow.

    Think of how much could have been avoided if only they'd listened to him.
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