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The ASS In Your Car - A Piece of Tape Works . . . For Now

Posted by freedomforall 8 months ago to Government
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Excerpt:
"First came ASS – the acronym that stands for Automatic Stop/Start, the system that automatically shuts off the vehicle’s engine every time the vehicle stops moving, then automatically restarts it when the driver lifts his foot off the brake.

At first – when ASS began to mysteriously appear in new vehicles as a standard feature that no one asked for about a decade ago – it was easy enough to turn ASS off. There was usually a button on the dash or somewhere on the center console. You often had to turn ASS off at the start of every drive in order to stop ASS from shutting off the engine every time the vehicle stopped moving – but at least you could turn ASS off.

Then it got harder to find the off button because there no longer was one. Instead, you had to figure out where “off” was buried within the various menus displayed on the LCD screen. These latter became unavoidable in a new vehicle about five years ago. No more just getting in and pushing the off button; it was necessary to go through a process of rigmarole to turn ASS off.

It was easier to just leave it on.

Just what they wanted. Just what was originally intended. The vehicle manufacturers knew few – if any – of their customers wanted ASS. That’s why ASS was never an option. It has always been a standard feature. But when a standard feature is unwanted, it’s generally wise for the seller to make it possible to turn it off. Hence the button – for awhile.

Now the physical button is gone – and the option to turn ASS off – is disappearing."


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  • Posted by 73SHARK 8 months ago
    As if the ASS wasn't bad enough, I'm reading a lot about how the car companies are selling your data to insurance companies and law enforcement. Depending on how you drive, this can adversely affect your insurance rate. Supposedly you can opt out of the feature but it is about as hard as opting out of ASS on newer cars.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    tsk tsk. I am all about Fords. Great cars for a knowledgeable buyer. My 1968 Gallaxie I bought from my HS Chemistry teacher went>200K miles (my brother got >300k on his). 1990 Mustang went 200k miles before I gave it away for nothing, and it ran great. I drove it like I stole it. Never even needed a clutch. My Ranger has 170 k miles and runs perfectly.

    Used to absolutely hate Hondas. They were not repairable, disposable things. I can do a clutch on an US car in a couple of hours. Tried to do a throwout bearing (and clutch) on a 1979 CVCC... what a complete POS! Ended up taking it to the dump after breaking off god knows how many bolts screwed directly into aluminum, stuck and galled. We still have to put up with all the BS in Consumer Reports and America haters like: "Honda's go 2,000,000,000 miles between oil changes". "Toyotas never even need new tires..." blah blah blah. My buddies have engine issues with their "indestructible" Jap crap, and there I go to fix them, while they rave about how reliable they are. Sister-in-law's Camry water pump failed and the whole engine went with it. That side of the family still swear by Toyotas.

    Now Hondas and Toyotas are fine, but they are not some magical devices. Most cars are good. German cars are less reliable and impossible to self-service, due to a requisite revenue stream to make up for them the massive waste manufacturing in socialist economies. If you want to set me off, say "German Engineering".
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  • Posted by NealS 8 months ago
    When I got the "Hot in the Gulch.." email showing, "The ASS In Your Car - A Piece of Tape Works...For Now"", I immediately opened the link to read your post. I thought it might be an article written by my wife, about my comments on her when we ride together and she is driving. Frankly, I was a little concerned about the "Piece of Tape Works". Please do not send this article to my wife, it might give her ideas.
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  • Posted by $ TomB666 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That is good! About 20 years ago I had a 1951 6 cyl Ford. At a local junk yard I bought a 'lift out' from a wrecked truck and with the help of a professional mechanic and a few friends installed it in my 1951. [ A lift out is a complete engine assembly from the fan to the end of the tail shaft of the transmission, including the computer that controlled the fuel injection.] Good luck with your swap :-)
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Oh, what engine and car? I love working on cars and engines. I have rebuilt and swapped a bunch!
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  • Posted by 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    👍 I can't recall ever having had an emission check on my car.
    (The last new car I bought was in '89 plus an almost new one in '95.)
    Where I live now, there is no car inspection required.
    I'm seriously considering doing an engine swap on my car
    (25 yr old) for greater performance in a couple of months.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 8 months ago
    Used cars have a special value. In the People's Republic of Taxachussets, a car >20 yrs old has NO emissions checks. You can do anything with an old car like that.

    Time to keep the old ones. I can rebuild anything in one, so will have no nannies for a long time.
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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I will never forget a Russian visitor, as we "discussed" all of these things. (For example, the rental company could not rent a 2 bedroom apartment to a mom with 4 kids, as the sq footage was maxed at 4 people).
    The Seat Belts.
    The Required Auto Insurance.
    ...

    And then he said it "Why do you believe you are freer than the average Russian?"

    It hit harder than he realized.
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  • Posted by $ gharkness 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I dunno. Both my cars are hybrids, and they turn the engine on/off at their leisure. I don't mess with it and couldn't if I wanted to. I DO know I get 34 MPG on one and 40 MPG on the bigger, heavier one. I do love both of them, but I get ya on not wanting to be told what to do. The newer one has "lane assist" which fights me the entire time I am driving (until I turn it off). Lexus's idea of "middle of the lane" and MY idea of the same thing - are decidedly different, and I WILL and DO win. But it's tiring, so I turn it off.

    OTOH on our drive back to Tucson from DFW last trip, I literally fell asleep driving my older (non lane assist) vehicle and was halfway out of the lane before I woke up (micro-sleep). Hubby didn't even realize I had fallen asleep, nor did I until I bounced back open. SCARY and why we WILL use lane assist on long drives in the future.

    However, now that hubby's had his lung surgery, we're FLYING again! DFW, here we come in November to visit family!
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  • Posted by $ gharkness 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yeah but you can still connect lap/shoulder belt and sit on that. In fact, if you have anything heavy in the front passenger seat, it'll trigger the chiming.

    My Lexus gives me some time, but hubby's (newer) one doesn't. Talk about annoying! I'll put my seat belt on when I want to, TYVM.
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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Those of us in the 70s remember our parents just plugged the seat belts in, and SAT ON THEM.

    I think that was ONE of the reasons for the SHOULDER Strap edition... LOL
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  • Posted by rhfinle 8 months ago
    Being someone who has a generally negative response to any authority, I can't stand a vehicle that tells me what to do. My wife "needed" a "new" car this year - and we got her a ten year old Toyota Highlander with the TV screen in the dash, keyless fob, start/stop button, the whole works.
    I tallied up, and pointed that it's HEr car, not "ours", and that we spent more on that car than on ALL the new and used cars - and - parts cars that I have ever bought for myself. She, of course, went into a gaslighting fit with "That's just not true", but refuses to look at the numbers.
    I'm at retirement age, and do not intend to ~ever~ buy myself another vehicle that doesn't have a carburetor and a straight shift. If you have to push a button to roll the window, I don't want it.
    I'm a computer engineer, and the last thing I want under the hood is software.
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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 8 months ago
    Yeah, I've rented cars with this and HATE IT.

    Side note. WHILE It does "improve" gas mileage. My mechanic friends ALL tell me that the wear and tear on the Engine is LIKELY the bigger reason. See, cars can now last 500K miles if you take care of them. Some can last 1 million miles.

    Well, that becomes a lifetime purchase, especially if you work from home, or at least 3 days/wk.

    Now, I have no proof it likely destroys the transmission starting and switching into a running gear because it was in gear when it powered off, but I assume it does. (Anyone?)

    No surprise here.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 8 months ago
    Me dino's ass has never even heard of this.
    Dumped Fords due to one car having an automatic transmission problem during the early Seventies and another having the same problem during the mid-nineties (drove a Mercury Bobcat with a straight shift in between).
    Been driving nothing but Hondas with automatic transmissions ever since. Sweet! First Honda lasted 12 years before old age problems forced me to trade it in for another.
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  • Posted by Ben_C 8 months ago
    All the more reason to keep my 2013 MKX with 156K miles.
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  • Posted by jack1776 8 months ago
    Subaru is the worst... The designers decided we cannot or will not be allowed to think for yourself. My wife has MS and she relies on Eyesight (Subaru's driving assist) due to her legs. Subaru, in their infante wisdom shuts down all features if a check engine light comes on for any reason forcing you to take it to the dealer. Also, have a very long driveway, if I take my seat belt off to check the mailbox, I'm not putting it back on. The Subaru chime starts off, like hey, put your seat belt on and by the time I get to the end of my driveway, its screaming at me to put the seatbelt on, am I child? I put it on so I don't have to listen to it so I guess it won. I won't be buying another subaru...
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