Heads or Tails, Wall Street Wins: Saving Our Pensions From The Casino

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"Consider New York City. Its five pension funds held $326.3 billion as of June 30, 2026. The city pays about $10 billion a year into them, even as it struggles to close a projected $5.4 billion budget deficit. What does the city get for its money? In 2015, then-Comptroller Scott Stringer examined ten years of results from the asset managers running the city’s pension funds. Managers of public stocks and bonds had beaten their benchmarks (the returns the same money would have earned in a standard market index such as the S&P 500) by $2.063 billion. But that was before deducting the managers’ fees. The fees consumed more than 95% of the gain, leaving the funds only an estimated $40 million ahead. Managers of the funds’ private investments (stakes in assets not traded on public exchanges, such as private equity and real estate funds) fell $2.6 billion short of their benchmarks after fees. Overall, the outside managers fell more than $2.5 billion dollars short of benchmark returns over the ten year period. The pension funds would have done better in plain index funds. “Right now, heads or tails, Wall Street wins,” Stringer said.

Stringer’s study was cited by Scott Baker, managing editor at OpEdNews and a Public Banking Institute expert on pension funds, in a November 2025 article titled “The Case for Selling off the New York City Pension Funds.” Baker asks, “Why do we need pension funds at all?” More on his answer after a look at pension fund financing as it has evolved over the last half-century."


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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 2 hours, 39 minutes ago
    It should be IMPOSSIBLE that the fees eclipse the profits by LAW.

    And, if they don't out produce their benchmarks but the indexes do. There should be a reduction in their fees.

    But why not just setup a system the FRONT-ENDS all of Pelosi's trades before Pelosi can make hers?
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 3 hours, 30 minutes ago in reply to this comment.
    Hopefully, we'll each get our $5,000 cut. And why?
    At least we will know where that much of our money went.
    For example, I buy all my gasoline with my only credit card with a $500 monthly limit. I pay it off each month.
    I do have one whole debit card used for groceries and other odd stuff. Checks are used for tax-deductible donations.
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  • Posted by WilliamRThomas 4 hours, 1 minute ago in reply to this comment.
    Well, then I am glad to be sucker, since Wall Street and my savings habit have made me very financially comfortable.

    A real casino has negative sum returns. You should expect on average to lose money there.

    The stock market, whatever its flaws, has positive sum returns. You should expect to gain money there.
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  • Posted by 4 hours, 6 minutes ago in reply to this comment.
    It's naïve to assume there is no corruption hidden by the firms that manage the index funds.
    Wall St, like Vegas, exists to clip the suckers (aka investors) and laws written to prevent it are
    written with advice (collusion) from Wall St, assuring that the unethical theft continues unabated.
    I only wish that Wall St was only a bunch of bookies taking transaction fees.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 4 hours, 13 minutes ago in reply to this comment.
    I guess these people aren't going to get Trump's $5000. On this issue, may there be a plague on both sides.
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  • Posted by WilliamRThomas 4 hours, 18 minutes ago
    It sounds like the problem is bad money management. It's not that the "casino" or stock market is unfair. It's that corrupt cronies mismanaged the money. The answer appears to be to use better Wall Street services, such as index funds. That's "the casino" too.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 4 hours, 59 minutes ago in reply to this comment.
    Me dino ain't no financial expert whut being as much a duh big expert as me am pretending to currently communicate.
    Yet, oih say, by George, moih immediate reaction wot transpired upon learning late yesterday afternoon thaut Wall Strike took a nose dive from a spike wot followed our sad joke for a vote und oih quote myself thaut being~~
    "What the hell did anyone really expect the stock market to do after a USA-hating Muslim-led rat pack of communists was allowed to take over the house, the senate and a ruddy lot of states?"
    I heard about that while driving. Gave my car radio one great big horse laugh!
    Why not laugh at all the "men can get pregnant" Dumbocrap stupidity? Better than crying.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 20 hours, 36 minutes ago
    That bank in North Dakota is what each state had and they were usually manned by the Post Office.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 1 day ago
    Wall Street is losing big time today and will continue to go down the socialist demise.
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