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  • Posted by plusaf 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    re: "I don't think a printing shop run by two women should be raided unless they are terrorists or some other security threat. Something I see as unlikely here.
    Homeland Security should be helping protect borders, stop terrorists, something that is actually in their mission statement."...

    I'm sorry that it took so long down this thread for anyone to raise the most appropriate question!!!

    "Why Them?!" Logical rationale, if any, must require some reality-stretching, to be sure!
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  • Posted by 10 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I remember reading a while back that a lot of people went to Mexico for pharmaceuticals because they are a lot cheaper. The drug companies warned that they could be knock offs and dangerous. Cases like that have to be taken seriously. I wonder if free trade agreements even address the IP issue. I have read that they are thousands of pages of useless gibberish. Why not just say we will trade with countries that take it seriously and if they don't(China) we will stop.
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  • Posted by khalling 10 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    yea, the percentage is small. I'm trying to think of IP issues that would. I guess knock off drugs.fake Ray Bans with no UV protection?
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  • Posted by 10 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It does appear to be an infringement but I have to wonder if something else is going on here. Maybe the print shop owner is on a "watch list" for some reason.
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  • Posted by $ root1657 10 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The raid was no on the store selling the goods. In the interview the guy says he made a delivery of the items and they asked him for paperwork, which he refused, so they actually seized the screens used to make the bootleg stuff from a different location.
    I agree, they were in the wrong. Using the KC property without license is theft. This print shop was run by looters.
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  • Posted by khalling 10 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    These raids happen. Usually the reasoning is it 's hard to track down vendors cuz they move around. It 's a well established area of trademark law. The idea is sponsorship. The Royal 's claiming people using a facsimile of their logo to profit but that it could also hurt the brand. She was in the wrong but she had an established business location and a letter from the Royals would have been a good first step.
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  • Posted by $ root1657 10 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    OK, different there than what was quoted in the text... but besides the third hand report by the woman at the news desk, no one ever said a gun was drawn. Also, this was not his first encounter with these agents, by his own report. He was asked to produce paperwork by the agent when he made delivery to that storefront, which he refused, so they went to the manufacturing center.

    Ya know, by objectivist thinking, this man was a looter, stealing the IP of others and selling it as his own. He's a thief, he was caught red handed by the very people we pay to do exactly this. He was in cuffs 10 minutes, and the whole situation wrapped up in an hour+/-.
    As for saying it was too many agents, 10 guys filed in to an unknown situation in a warehouse.... I don't think that's unreasonable. Also, even by his own demonstration of the hand motion, the agent had his hand on a holstered weapon, which is not a swat style raid, else it would have been brandished long weapons carried 'at the hunt'.
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  • Posted by $ root1657 10 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    What number of agents was it? I'm seeing in the text that one of the people says 2 guys came in, and they thought they were customers, and asked what size they needed, then they were shown badges, and the visit explained.... um.... yeah... 2 guys came in... no door kicking, no swat team....
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  • Posted by $ root1657 10 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "so much force"? It says in the text, in the words of one of the people in the shop that 2 guys came in, they asked what size they needed, then they showed a badge... doesn't exactly sound like a swat raid. Sounds like 2 (most law enforcement travel in pairs for safety) guys walked in in such a low key manner that they initially thought they were customers. I'm not sure this 'raid' could have been more mellow unless they'd just sent em a letter...
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  • Posted by Herb7734 10 years, 6 months ago
    Can you imagine if she tried boarding a plane while wearing them? I can see whole new scenarios for porn films. It'll replace the pizza delivery guy.
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  • Posted by $ jlc 10 years, 6 months ago
    This is wonderful! Department of Homeland Security looks so absurd overreacting like this; this will cause much laughter. What we need now is a poster that shows a buff DHS male agent dude, dressed and badged from the waist up, but from the waist down is wearing these panties. The slogan can be, "Be good or the DHS will steal your panties!"

    Jan, with an active imagination
    (On a more serious note, blarman is totally right.)
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