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Land of the Free – 1 in 3 Americans Are on File with the FBI in the U.S. Police State

Posted by Zenphamy 10 years, 6 months ago to Government
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So you think you live as a free man? Even children doing childish things get a police record.


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  • Posted by khalling 10 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    what's it their business if you were? db had a security clearance in the 90s. Un-nerving experience. They came to our house. seriously, they looked and acted like they were FBI agents in a TV show. we're also on a list because they had to vet us during the McVeigh trial. We had rented a Ryder Truck, we had stopped in Junction City at around the same time he had at the same Dairy Queen!
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  • Posted by radical 10 years, 6 months ago
    I know that I'm in their file. Some years back I got a letter from them asking if I was aquainted with the Pilot Connection, a tax - protest organization. I told them I wasn't.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 10 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Most non-tourist visas for travel overseas also require such an FBI background check with fingerprints. I think this is also true for concealed carry licenses (based on state laws.)
    Years ago I also had a secret security clearance investigation. Today it would be folly to assume that the agency doesn't mainatin a permanent database of that data.
    Your tax dollars at work enslaving you.
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  • Posted by kathywiso 10 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hint: Never trust the government... When I lived in DE, there was a case brought against the state, they found that private gun purchases that were only supposed to be held for 6 mos, were recorded and held from the beginning of the first records...ok..you are being tracked, phone, credit cards, car tracking, they put it all together to see if you are a threat. Those meetings we go to for preserving freedom, they put us at the top of the list. Political activity, school board meetings, fighting for freedom...big target on our back.
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  • Posted by richrobinson 10 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Shortly after moving in to our first house someone broke in when we weren't home and stole some electronics and jewelry. Probably a drug head. The county police dusted for prints and said they needed my fingerprints in order to eliminate the prints that were mine. For some reason my wife was not finger printed. I was told this was done for comparison only and that they would not keep my prints on file. Maybe they didn't but now I wonder???
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  • Posted by kathywiso 10 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    They are adding your Gulch comments to it...

    To get the license to sell liquor at my restaurant and for my CC permit, I had to go through the fingerprint background check.. Dog at Large charge was on it, speeding tickets, the extent of my criminal background. Do you think they don't mark everything you do on that file ? Fortunately, nothing to restrict me from either permit, yet...
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  • Posted by richrobinson 10 years, 6 months ago
    Whoa. I had a tenant that went to work for the FBI. I was interviewed by a couple of agents before they hired him. Seemed matter of fact stuff but I wonder if their is still a file with my name on it.
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  • Posted by Non_mooching_artist 10 years, 6 months ago
    A student got arrested because her science experiment went awry?! The unknown result is inherent in experimenting. Otherwise it's just some
    thought that hasn't been acted upon!
    Absurdity in the extreme. My kids are both in high school. We have a resource officer there, yet the kids love them. One is the father of a really good friend of my son's and who also happens to be a personal friend. In many ways we are fortunate to not have a hopped up police dept here. These men and women live here, have kids in the schools, and are not out busting balls. From this article, that is CLEARLY not the case elsewhere. Abhorrent. The kids and their parents need to fight back against these tyrannical encroachments to their liberty. It will be a bittersweet memory else wise.
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  • Posted by kathywiso 10 years, 6 months ago
    I would be surprised if everyone that comments in "The Gulch" isn't on The List...
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  • Posted by Non_mooching_artist 10 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Wow, and good for you. You're exercising your, while it still exists, free speech and right to peaceably assemble. I think a great sense of serenity would descend, knowing you are fooled by their posturing. And that you are free.
    I thumb my nose in their general direction!
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  • Posted by Technocracy 10 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Wow, I did not know they had done that. All our kids are well beyond that point so have not been involved like that in some years.

    Plus side though it does speed things up when you need clearance for a new project. I would generally only have to fill out a much shorter update form for the new clearance.
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  • Posted by $ winterwind 10 years, 6 months ago
    Try going to a demonstration knowing you're on the list of the police in town, just about the last thing someone says to you before you speak is "Yeah. We saw them." and then getting up to give and ROUSING speech about gun control that has the crowd ready to rock and roll.
    "them" are the police snipers.
    Being on the list stopped bothering me about then, for some reason.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 10 years, 6 months ago
    I am on file with the FBI for multiple security clearances at national labs in the 1990s. However, what most people forget is how they have to go through an FBI background check, including a $55 fingerprinting, to volunteer at their kids' schools, their churches, etc. now. This was the start of what changed me from volunteering to more of an AR set of values.
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  • Posted by Technocracy 10 years, 6 months ago
    Being on file with the FBI is not necessarily because they are suspicious of you.

    I got my first security clearance in 1980 and have been on file ever since.
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  • Posted by Snoogoo 10 years, 6 months ago
    I bet of the Gulch population 3 of 3 are on file, just smile and wave to the cameras guys.
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