Ebola. Now she has it, now she doesn't?

Posted by freedomforall 10 years, 6 months ago to Politics
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When will the truth be made public?
This is one more example of hiding the truth about Ebola.
No explanation whatsoever, but now the Dallas nurses are "cured."


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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 10 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    My "two coin tosses" was shorthand for 25%.
    The rate of survival I heard in the 90s was 50% with advanced treatment 10% with no treatment.
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  • Posted by natvbaby 10 years, 6 months ago
    That is the problem they don't want to spread panic but people should be able to know everything that's going on.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    With an administration as politically motivated as this one (and 6 of the previous 7) anyone speaking out against them could be the next terminal patient.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    CG, we aren't sheep. The fedgov has a habit of lying to the people it is supposed to serve. In my opinion the likelyhood of getting the truth from the fedgov is lower than surviving Ebola. So I am a vociferous critic of this purposeful policy of either withholding information or outright lying. When more than one person is involved in such activities it is conspiracy.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 10 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The magical powers include the ability to convince large numbers of dumb people of his "good" intentions.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 10 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Your statistics calculation is off. If the cure rate is 50% and survival was random, then the chance of any two patients surviving, would be 50% of 50% - or 25% - if the outcome was random, which it is not. Survival in a country with advanced medical treatment makes the problem not a random one mathematically.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 10 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, conveniently on purpose. Obama typically has the anti-Midas effect. I didn't want anywhere near him. BTW, I now have a handwritten sign on my lab's door with Galt's oath on it. My lab is in an unwanted stepchild of a building that is trafficked by a lot of students, but only one other professor - who agrees with us.
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  • Posted by edweaver 10 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    She does look pretty healthy for a person who has just been cured. Funny, I don't remember the first person who was cured even being shown on the news. Wasn't that a male doctor or is my memory bad? I think he was white too. In any case, I thought there was a long road to recovery with this even after being cured of the disease itself.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 10 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "suddenly both nurses are cured of a disease that supposedly kills 60%+ of those who are afflicted. "
    I've heard the cure rate is 50% with treatment. jlc says it may turn out to be closer to 70%. Assuming with treatment 50% die, the chances of two particular patients surviving is equal to doing two coin tosses. The chances of _any_ two patients surviving, not ones you picked before you knew if they would survive, is 100%. _Some_ patients will die and others will survive; we just don't know who until the disease runs its course. This is basic to all infectious diseases and not a conspiracy.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 10 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yeah... I think so too. We're being played like a fiddle with this shit... no, played like an oboe....-la.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 10 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'll remember to do that if I ever get within coughing distance. He came to campaign in 2012, and miraculously (word choice intentional for this crowd) Florida Tech did not just shrivel up and die like a weed sprayed with RoundUp. I conveniently missed that speech.
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  • Posted by richrobinson 10 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    My older brother isn't sure. He went on the website and since his policy hasn't been canceled yet they won't quote a price. Wonder why?
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  • Posted by j_IR1776wg 10 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Just as He promised. Semi-free in January '09 and mostly slave in January '17. There's that gap in there:-)
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 10 years, 6 months ago
    Wouldn't it be ironic if President Obama contracted Ebola from the Dallas nurse?
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  • Posted by $ jlc 10 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    FYI. Here is an abstract of an article from the New England Journal of Med a few days ago:

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    Ebola virus disease (EVD) developed in a patient who contracted the disease in Sierra Leone and was airlifted to an isolation facility in Hamburg, Germany, for treatment. During the course of the illness, he had numerous complications, including septicemia, respiratory failure, and encephalopathy. Intensive supportive treatment consisting of high-volume fluid resuscitation (approximately 10 liters per day in the first 72 hours), broad-spectrum antibiotic therapy, and ventilatory support resulted in full recovery without the use of experimental therapies. Discharge was delayed owing to the detection of viral RNA in urine (day 31) and sweat (at the last assessment on day 40) by means of polymerase-chain-reaction (PCR) assay, but the last positive culture was identified in plasma on day 14 and in urine on day 26. This case shows the challenges in the management of EVD and suggests that even severe EVD can be treated effectively with routine intensive care.

    (endquote)

    I suspect that the death rate in US and Europe will be closer to 30%, and it appears that conventional therapies are successful in even some pretty bad cases.

    That being said, I am REALLY UPSET with the CDC. They have been 'the source of the Nile' for accurate and competent medical laboratory information and action for the last 40 years, and they are acting like bumbling, politicized idiots.

    Jan
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  • Posted by 10 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Of course, I am skeptical. It's the US government announcing it and they haven't been completely truthful about details regarding Ebola, mostly making statements that are irrational based on the data disclosed.
    They gave no indication of treatment, no updates on condition, and suddenly both nurses are cured of a disease that supposedly kills 60%+ of those who are afflicted.
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  • Posted by $ jlc 10 years, 6 months ago
    I do not understand your objection. When a person gets over a virus infection and has no more symptoms or signs of the virus in his body, he is referred to as being "cured". What is different about this nurse, to you?

    Jan
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 10 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Ours too...and forced into a much higher prices plan with no higher benefits. I feel fundamentally transformed.
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