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GOP senator warns of violence after immigration order

Posted by $ AJAshinoff 10 years, 5 months ago to Politics
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O wants violence and anarchy...its why DHS bought all that ammo and why there has been training on US soil to deal with urban scenarios. This is a stepping stone to imposing martial law and, potentially, extending his term in office indefinitely. If teh GOP had any fidelity to this country and any character as an American party that represents the American people and their interests they would have a charge of treason ready the second he plays king. He is circumventing the entire US government, ignoring his oath of office, and deliberately creating anarchy.


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  • Posted by $ blarman 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You're assuming that the replacement is logical, however. I think that was part of Gowdy's jab - that Biden is too much an idiot to realize the peril. And based on his prior gaffes, there is likely merit to his suggestion.
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  • Posted by starznbarz 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Gowdy is one of the rare politicians that actually speaks plainly without considering how it will affect his reelection, however, he is wrong about Biden being the communists insurance policy, consider the third world dictator that is finally taken by the people and stood in front of a rifle squad, after the echos fade, his replacement is then asked "which path will you follow?"
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  • Posted by $ 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    O isn't stupid or naive. He is bought and paid for to deconstruct this Nation. Our enemies could not defeat us militarily nor overcome us economically or socially so they used our strength (stubborn lawfulness and national arrogance) and bought the White House. My only question about O is whether a muslim nation or group of nations, the Russians, or the Chinese paid for his services. I might add, if this is true, and someone seeded a muslim manchurian candidate, he's doing a fantastic job splintering every single pillar that supported this country's greatness.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Or if you believe some of them, they just don't want to put Joe Biden in office. One of the unintended consequences of electing the VP from the same party as the President instead of the opposing party. It severely undermined the threat of Impeachment and Conviction.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I seriously doubt this would fly in the United States. I used to live in an Air Force town and the military people (aside from their oath to protect the Constitution against all foes - foreign or DOMESTIC) wouldn't conscion such. If you had a conscription army like China or a politically powerful army like Egypt, I can see a coup. But fundamentally, our warriors in the Armed Services fight for our Country - not our President.

    Of course, I wouldn't want a situation in which my faith in the Services would be challenged.
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  • Posted by $ jlc 10 years, 5 months ago
    AJAshinoff -

    I too hope that you are wrong. I hope that the President is not deliberately inciting civil disturbance so that he can have an excuse to impose martial law and stay in power. I take as a guiding proverb, "Do not attribute to malice that which may be explained by stupidity." I think that it is more likely that Obama is single-mindedly trying to cram through one more law for 'his side' without considering consequence.

    I agree with sfdi that the question of 'what the president would command during a civil strife' and 'what the military would do during a civil strife' are two separate quantities. At times, when the president is respected by the military, A ~= to B. I do not think that this is one of those times.

    Jan
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  • Posted by $ 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Where I live, 200 miles north of the Mexican border, its been a freakin powder keg waiting for something like this to send the illegals and those who support them into a frenzy. Fact is O will overstep any degree of authority he has, he will ignore his oath of office and the Constitution, and attempt to impose law by decree using executive orders (something we shucked off in 1783). In other words the separation of powers means nothing, the rule of law is dead, and national sovereignty does not exist. While I respect that you served 30 years it baffles me how you can marginalize and trivialize this.

    As for the vast majority being good people - they are ALL law breakers having entered this country illegally. Being nice doesn't make up for knowingly breaking our laws.

    I will not go ballistic...I've given up on the people of this country some time ago to react with rash anger. However, I do feel sorry for those who come for me,mine or whats mine.

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  • Posted by NealS 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There exists a larger number of shooters and a lot more ammo in the ranks other than the government. The government's may be automatic, but that is not necessarily an advantage, sometimes it just uses more ammo..
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  • Posted by radical 10 years, 5 months ago
    A lot of "crying wolf" has been going on for years, but we had better be ready when the wolf comes!
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  • Posted by sfdi1947 10 years, 5 months ago
    AJ; Served in the ranks for thirty years, and in spite of Obama's political maneuvering, I can't envision more than a hand full of people less than ES 3 - GS 15 responding in the way you predict. You definitely won't get that from the Military, they are not in lockstep with the extreme liberals. You might, at the most severe extent see a minor revolution or the temporary dissolution of the Union. And in the Cities the Have Nots will riot but they will not get what they want, they will have survival problems because needed stuff will not get thru.
    You can have all the ammo in the world, without shooters, it doesn't have any effect. The vast majority are good people, you can see that in disaster after disaster. We will pull together, push comes to shove, we always have.
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  • Posted by jimslag 10 years, 5 months ago
    I live in New Mexico and it seems to be a forgotten border crossing point. All the talk is about Texas and Arizona. There are a lot of crossings here and it is flatter with little to no fencing. We even have a crossing that is on the honor system, no Border Patrol, just a barbed wire fence with a gate and a log book. Columbus, a town near the border was raided and most city officials were arrested for being in cahoots with the cartels. Border Patrol doesn't seem to be worried about the border but I have to go through something like 3 checkpoints between El Paso and Alamogordo. I live in Clovis, which is about half way up the Texas/New Mexico border and we have not had much of a problem this far from the border. However, I still have my Beretta 9mm and Mossberg 12 Gauge armed and ready.
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Very true, but Congress doesn't dare impeach and let the public see how bad it really is.
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  • Posted by $ 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Whenever this POS says anything he's taking all eyes off what he's really up to. No doubt he will do "something" tomorrow and that something is probably just short of his being impeached and far short of being tried for treason (which he deserves) but suck just the same for the American people. If he goes as far as his bluster he is complete contrast to his office and his duty as POTUS.
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'm sure you're right about the illegals. But I still have suspicion about what nonsense he get's up to next year.
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  • Posted by $ 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I live in Arizona...next week will be a telling point as the illegal arrogantly come pouring in. I have to get get Cabelas - never hurts to be prepared.
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  • Posted by edweaver 10 years, 5 months ago
    I hope you are wrong AJ but afraid you are not. This guy has to be removed from office if he does this. If not, it will not matter what part has it, they will do the same thing.
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  • Posted by robertmbeard 10 years, 5 months ago
    Senator Tom Coburn is one of the best senators in US history. His dedication to the Constitution and to fiscal sanity by identifying wasteful spending that should be eliminated is a breath of fresh air in the corrupt town of DC. It's sad to see him retire early. I wish him the best in his battle with cancer. He has been a true patriot and served us well. Well done, Senator Coburn...
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