Not even in my top 100 things to do. LOL.
I'm sure you have heard the argument about gay marriage saying that next will be people wanting to marry their dog? Now that the left have pushed gay marriage down our throats, they are trying to humanize animals and start shoving that down our throats. Have you seen the Progressive commercial about the pig stealing the guys girlfriend?
SICK!!!!

Likewise on re-reading Heinlein's young adult fiction. I think I was 13 or 14 before I found Anthem, and I was in HS before I read AS. So - I am quite lagging behind you.

I thought I would see re the YA book I am searching for. I will keep looking. Thanks.

Jan

Sorry, plotline rings no bells. Most of my "juvenile" SF reading was in the sixties. I still reread Heinlein's books for kids every couple of years. Of course, a lot of what I read back then wasn't quite juvenile. Read "Anthem" at 11, "The Fountainhead" at 12 and "Atlas Shrugged" at 13. (They look at you funny when you're walking around junior high school with a big-ass book that doesn't even have pictures in it). Oh, and during that period I also read the KJV cover-to-cover and renounced religion. (I didn't actively renounce government until a quarter-century later -- in some things I can be a bit slow).

Dogs have a lot of facial control and a combination of lips, eyes, and ears show a wide range of feelings. The 'submissive grin' is one of them. In some breeds, including boxers and collies, the back of the mouth can draw upwards into a big smile.

I almost felt as if I had hit the jackpot with your Brin recommendation, but I did a little poking around and read some synopses of the Uplift books, but did not find what I was looking for. The book I read, some decades ago, was a juvenile SF book (part of a series) that involved 3 teens from the US who had passed an alien 'entrance exam' and were going to be taken offworld to be educated. One was a girl who had worked with chimps, one was a boy who did rapier reenactment and I think the third was a archetypal nerdish boy. The reason I thought that it might be the Brin books was I dimly recall a backstory bit about Earth getting points for having communicated with dolphins and chimps. Have you a clue as to which book/author I should look for?

Jan

Yeah, Lindsay really played the chimp. Which pissed the chimp off so bad he ripped the face off of the next woman he met.

Dogs don't "smile". That's a permanent expression. They don't have that kind of control of the muscles around their mouths.

Yes, I too would like to see other species with sentience. I recommend the Uplift novels of David Brin (great SF novelist, calls himself a libertarian but it's like Bill Maher calling himself a libertarian).

It was Carol that made the quip. Vicky, though much younger, was better at keeping a straight face, so that's why she was "Mama" (and so on into the sitcom).

then you have never visited Charles Manson have you?

Sorry, flanap, but did I miss the html tags for <sarcastic>, <humor>, <ironic> or just <flat-out-stupid> humor?

:)

I know the word. However, I sometimes forget that I'm in the Gulch and don't have to simplify for understanding.

“The ascription of rights has historically been connected with the imposition of societal obligations and duties,” the judges wrote. “Needless to say, unlike human beings, chimpanzees cannot bear any legal duties, submit to societal responsibilities or be held legally accountable for their actions. In our view it is this incapability to bear any legal responsibilities and societal duties that renders it inappropriate to confer upon chimpanzees the legal rights … that have been afforded to human beings.”

Don't believe chimps have habeus corpus rights, but this judge's derivation of rights is way off from both the Founders and individual natural rights.

Actually, I think that much of which is termed anthropomorphism is actually 'mammalism' and we (as usual) anthrocentric humans believe that we are the center of the universe and the other animals are either behaving randomly or imitatively. Example: experimentally, the young of many species of mammals smile when sugar is put in their mouths, frown with vinegar, and grimace with bitters. "Smiling" is something that indicates a positive experience among many mammals (as folks with dogs can attest). Similarly, bowing indicates submission almost across the board and 'initiation of play' has similar signals amongst many carnivores and omnivores (inc man).

I thoroughly agree with Herb. I would love to see other animals 'cross the line' into sentience, but none have made it yet.

Jan

Finally a court ruling that makes sense. I knew from the get go that Michael Brown was an animal; now the court confirms it!

It's called anthropomorphism and liberals have it in spades. Or, perhaps, they're simply insane.

As funny as Tim was, Vicky's quip is priceless. My eyes are still wet and I'm just getting my breath back.

I have never seen a human take a crap in their hand and then stick it in their mouth and then spit it out on the bars???

That one made me laugh out loud for real!!!

thanks for that. IF that group didn't nail sense of life-I don't know who has-

Thanks for the laugh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qqE_Wma...

It didn't run away... it just Rocked On...

Wow, some of those qualifications which the chimp did not meet, also are not met by some of our citizens. The ability to meet social obligations and be responsible. Yep, we ave devolved as a society. We don't need a bunch of chimps on welfare. I remember when the Brits set the mink free - they ate household pets. What next broccoli? Remember, the UN is for Gaia.

I once had a pet rock. During that fad, I bought a polished one that came with a pair of stick-on eyes. As the years passed, the eyes fell off. Still, I would keep the polished little critter on a desk or a counter, Then one day after I moved for the umpteenth time, I realized that my pet rock had run away from home. I wondered how it did that with no eyes. Maybe it found a girlfriend and did not want to move. If it did find a girlfriend, I hope she is just as polished.
Or she's not worthy! She's not worthy!