That can play into it with a retired divorced dude on a fixed income I know.
Ha-rumph! Ha-rumph!
So can a date's crazy offspring and relatives.
Just like my ex's kin.

Men are giving up on women because the definition of sexual assault has expanded to the point where "a pick up line" is viewed as harassment.

Blame the feminists for some of this. But men should have greater courage than what they seem to show.

I was just trying to lighten the conversation a little. with the sex doll comment. When I was looking for a new secretary a friend of mine sent me a link to a page where you could buy seemingly life like women. You could order eye color, bust size, weight hairstyle, everything. It was amazing. They even had their own internal skeletal system. It was sent to me as a joke but it was real. It is shipped directly to your door in a unmarked wooden crate and comes with optional clothing accessories. She would never file disability or a workman's compensation claim, was able to work 24 hrs without a break, was great eye candy and had no student loan debt. She could even be used as a passenger in a car to get in the carpool lane without getting a ticket. Seriously though I suspect the kind of daughter you raised is the exception. As a dad I hope my boys can find someone like her but its not easy. I have never had any problems with my boys they are smart and good looking. My hope is the values I gave them will come in handy when finding someone like your daughter someday.

She very well could be, just not using a /halling tag.

I agree with your observation of self invested vs. spoiled, but thats what I'm getting at. In todays world of 7 second first impressions, its very easy to come across as being "too" into yourself. I fall victim to this quite often, as I am very confident in myself, to the point of being cocky on occasion. For that reason people say that I have a big "ego" but I know that I wouldn't have what I have today without it, so I let them be. I wasn't blaming women so much as I was all parties. Also, no girl I associate with :) I was just saying that being on a college campus, you see and hear these things often, and while I would say its a stretch that a majority of people use apps like Tinder (which is what I was referencing) some do, and it really is that easy.

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Sounds like she probably should be among us in the Gulch.

I kind of picked up on that and wasn't 'going after' you per se, but wanted to provide a counter argument. It's the stupid student loan thing that disgusts me among the things you listed that is the hardest thing to avoid.

lol. It's an old phrase from my western Pa days of lore: left palm or right palm is the one they are married to.

Sex dolls? Really?! My daughter is 25, gorgeous, debt free and productive. I love the strong men on this site who appreciate and cherish the women in their lives. There will always be feminist jerks. In the mean time we 're raising wonderful women. A for effort on finding them under your nose

Women are individuals. You can discuss a culture and some loud mouthed leaders but we 're all over the map I assure you. This article is a cop out. These are difficult times. Blame women or blame yourself for not fighting back against the regulatory and crony world in which you live. Sarah Conners is just down the street. Have you even looked?

Yes. But who the heck is Mary Palmer?

Why would one pick someone who isn 't invested in their own life? Spoiled is a different concern. And not a great category for all of a gender. In fact, I would say the women I know in their 20s are by far frustrated in finding men not attached to alternative realities on their down time (ie video games) . I completely understand why people in their 20s look for distractions- the world currently sucks, so why invest, but unless you are bambib I don 't think blaming women will fix it for you any time soon. Btw, I know many 20 something women who do not answer to a swipe and text with sex. Who are these girls you know anyway?

You make good points and I agree. My comments were a bit sarcastic and trying to add a little humor. I've been married now 25 years and have three smart boys After watching the video on this I worry about their ability to find a decent young lady. Women in my opinion have changed and the American man over the years had been woosified in society. I was just kidding about the sex dolls. They can look just like the real thing.

I thought I'd put in my .02 on your take and anyone who's thinking along the same lines. Let's compare & contrast:

"Virtual" anything, e.g., Virtual Host Environment (IT stuff), Virtual reality, etc, means it isn't really real.

The doll thing is a bit scary, creepy, & disturbing. That is one reason among many why the Japanese are slowly dying off: the sex dolls aren't going to save them either.

Found someone who smarts off to you? No problem, dump them & then re-examine who YOU are, make peace with your faults, deal with any unresolved grief from past BS (we all have to go through it at some point in our lives) & then make a better choice the next time out.

Unless you love burning through $$, avoid high maintenance or high-emotional dates & keep your hard-earned money.

Student loan debt is an engineered problem that seems to be effecting everybody ~ don't know what to do about that. On the other hand (pun intended), staying loyal to Mary Palmer with your favorite lubricant and fantasies isn't living real life either and ultimately will disappoint you in the long haul, leaving you lonely & bitter.

You can't smell the hair of the one you're with when you're engaged in fantasy (internet porn, videos, magazines, etc).

You can't feel the satisfaction of making the other person laugh and hearing them laugh.

Is it better to scratch yourself (got an itch you can't quite reach?) or to have someone else scratch for you?

Afterwards, isn't it way cool to actually connect with someone versus being done with yourself?

All I'm saying is that when it's done right, it is far more satisfying to be with someone else than it is to engage in avoidance and/or fantasy, and therefore, people ought to put forth a better effort at reaching out & trying to seek someone versus taking the easy way out.

That's my .02.

+100 if that were possible.

American Girls are into too much drama. I think this issue is somewhat different in different cultures. When one thinks of all the virtual sex opportunities why put up with the hassle. Today you can go online and buy a female doll made of synthetic flesh that appears real along with fully functioning body parts. Why put up with someone who will only try to smart off to you, is moody, you have to buy things for and then wants to take half your money. Couple this with the negative of finding someone you like and then find out she is laced with student loan debt till age 65 and life is better in front of a video game. Its simply cheaper and less hassle. This is taking Rand's concept of reason to its logical conclusion.

I can't see young people giving up sex en masse. A discussion of modern day feminism would be interesting.

Men can't find good women, women can't find good men. It takes a lot of work and patience, something the entire generation lacks. I think the problem is more with the myth of instant gratification. I started to read this series and I have to say that I'm not really buying into it.

It means they can't relate to people which is a little frightening.

Ayn Rand made it pretty clear we go after the same kind of person we are.

So what does it mean when a guy goes after no one, preferring a porno and a paper towel?

Yea that is a little off. I'm noticing a massive trend as of late amongst the people I have as connections of Facebook (men and women) of new engagements and pregnancies where the man definitely plans to stay. The marriage part is especially true amongst military. Lets be honest here, men will never be "fully done" with women. It's just that the extent that we attach ourselves emotionally to them has lessened a bit over the past decade.

I hadn't thought about how the Internet has changed things. It did sound like many men are done with women completely. I find that part hard to believe.

This definitely plays into it, actually.